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洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary:

@hongminhee@hollo.social

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An intersectionalist, feminist, and socialist living in Seoul (UTC+09:00). @tokolovesme's spouse. Who's behind @fedify, @hollo, and @botkit. Write some free software in , , , & . They/them.

서울에 사는 交叉女性主義者이자 社會主義者. 金剛兔(@tokolovesme)의 配偶者. @fedify, @hollo, @botkit 메인테이너. , , , 等으로 自由 소프트웨어 만듦.

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@hongminhee@hollo.social

Hello! I'm Hong Minhee (洪 民憙), an open source software engineer in my late 30s, living in Seoul, Korea. I'm bisexual and non-binary (they/them), and an enthusiastic advocate of free/open source software and the fediverse.

I work full-time on @fedify, an ActivityPub server framework in TypeScript, funded by @sovtechfund. I'm also the creator of @hollo, a single-user ActivityPub microblog; @botkit, an ActivityPub bot framework; Hackers' Pub, a fediverse platform for software developers; and LogTape, a logging library for JavaScript and TypeScript.

I have a long interest in East Asian languages (CJK) and Unicode. I post mostly in English here, though occasionally in Japanese or in mixed-script Korean (國漢文混用體), a traditional writing style that interleaves Chinese characters with the native Korean alphabet. Wanting to write in that style was actually one of the reasons I joined the fediverse. Feel free to talk to me in English, Korean, Japanese, or even Literary Chinese!

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Korean mixed script - Wikipedia

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はじめまして!ソウル在住の30代後半のオープンソースソフトウェアエンジニア、洪 民憙ホン・ミンヒと申します。バイセクシュアル(bisexual)・ノンバイナリー(non-binary)で、自由・オープンソースソフトウェア(F/OSS)とフェディバース(fediverse)の熱烈な支持者です。

STF(@sovtechfund)の支援を受け、TypeScript用ActivityPubサーバーフレームワーク「@fedify」の開発に専念しています。他にも、おひとり様向けのActivityPubマイクロブログ「@hollo」、ActivityPubボットフレームワーク「@botkit」、ソフトウェア開発者向けフェディバースプラットフォームHackers' Pub、JavaScript・TypeScript用ロギングライブラリLogTapeなどの制作者でもあります。

東アジア言語(いわゆるCJK)とUnicodeにも興味があります。このアカウントでは主に英語で投稿していますが、時々日本語や国漢文混用体(漢字ハングル混じり文)の韓国語でも書いています。実はこの文体で書きたくてフェディバースを始めた、という経緯もあります。日本語、英語、韓国語、漢文でも気軽に話しかけてください!

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国漢文混用体からHolloまで

本発表では、韓国語の「国漢文混用体」(漢字ハングル混じり文)を自分のフェディバース投稿に実装したいという小さな目標から始まった旅路を共有します。 この目標を達成するために、ActivityPubのJSON-LDの複雑さやHTTP Signatures、WebFingerなどの仕様を理解する必要性に…

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安寧(안녕)하세요! 저는 서울에 살고 있는 30() 後半(후반)의 오픈 소스 소프트웨어 엔지니어 洪民憙(홍민희)입니다. 兩性愛者(양성애자)(bisexual)이자 논바이너리(non-binary)이며, 自由(자유)·오픈 소스 소프트웨어(F/OSS)와 聯合宇宙(연합우주)(fediverse)의 熱烈(열렬)支持者(지지자)이기도 합니다.

STF(@sovtechfund)의 支援(지원)을 받아 TypeScript() ActivityPub 서버 프레임워크 @fedify 開發(개발)專業(전업)으로 ()하고 있습니다. 그 ()에도 싱글 유저() ActivityPub 마이크로블로그 @hollo, ActivityPub 봇 프레임워크 @botkit, 소프트웨어 開發者(개발자)를 위한 聯合宇宙(연합우주) 플랫폼 Hackers' Pub, JavaScript·TypeScript() 로깅 라이브러리 LogTape ()製作者(제작자)이기도 합니다.

()아시아 言語(언어)(이른바 CJK)와 Unicode에도 關心(관심)이 많습니다. 이 計定(계정)에서는 ()英語(영어)로 포스팅하지만, 때때로 日本語(일본어)國漢文混用體(국한문 혼용체) 韓國語(한국어)로도 씁니다. 聯合宇宙(연합우주)에 오게 된 動機(동기) () 하나가 바로 國漢文混用體(국한문 혼용체)로 글을 쓰고 싶었기 때문이기도 하고요. 韓國語(한국어), 英語(영어), 日本語(일본어), 아니면 漢文(한문)으로도 말을 걸어주세요!

logtape.org

LogTape

Unobtrusive logging library with zero dependencies—library-first design for Deno, Node.js, Bun, browsers, and edge functions

@hongminhee@hollo.social · Reply to 志文

@shimon1024 おお、モンゴル文字対応ですか…興味深いですね!モンゴル文字については浅学ですが、もっと深くお話ししたいです。私は自作のActivityPub実装であるHolloに、漢字混じりの韓国語(所謂「国漢文混用体」)に振りハングル(振り仮名のハングル版)を付ける機能を実装したことがあります。もしよろしければ、DMで具体的なお約束を決めませんか?

@hongminhee@hollo.social · Reply to silverpill

@silverpill Thanks for the clarification! I think I was overcomplicating it—I was imagining a scenario where gateway A forwards a received activity to gateway B, and wondering how B could trust that A hadn't tampered with it. But of course, since portable activities must carry FEP-8b32 integrity proofs, the authenticity of the activity itself can always be verified regardless of which server forwarded it. No separate gateway-to-gateway authentication mechanism is needed.

And the gateways-based trust makes sense now as a mechanism specifically for unauthenticated collections—if a collection comes from a server listed in the actor's gateways array, proof verification can be skipped; otherwise it's required.

Jiwon (@z9mb1), one of our core contributors, drew a Fedify dino! How cute!

https://oeee.cafe/@z9mb1/2b5b0baf-466b-4c65-a1e0-d3588f0666f4

oeee.cafe

Fedify dino for notice

https://kre.pe/CKwN This is a paid request :) fediverse logo was attached afterwards.

@z9mb1@oeee.cafe

Fedify dino for notice

https://kre.pe/CKwN This is a paid request :) fediverse logo was attached afterwards.

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Fedify dino for notice

@z9mb1@oeee.cafe

Fedify dino for notice

https://kre.pe/CKwN This is a paid request :) fediverse logo was attached afterwards.

Fedify dino for notice
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Fedify dino for notice

@hongminhee@hollo.social

Started laying out a rough plan for implementing FEP-ef61: Portable Objects in —server-independent identities backed by , multi-server replication, and client-side signing. It's going to be a long road (13 tasks across 5 phases, with a few open questions that need answering before we even begin), but I think it's worth doing right.

https://github.com/fedify-dev/fedify/issues/288#issuecomment-3971459585

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FEP-ef61: Portable Objects · Issue #288 · fedify-dev/fedify

Add support for FEP-ef61 for creating server indepent fediverse applications This FEP are depend on 8b32 which already available in Fedify

@hongminhee@hollo.social

國漢文(국한문)으로 韓國語(한국어) 쓸 때 「()代身(대신)()」을 쓰는 便(). 비슷하게 「()代身(대신)()」를 쓴다거나, 「()代身(대신)()」를 쓴다거나 하는 게 있음. 아무도 神經(신경) 안 쓰겠지만… ㅋㅋㅋ

Oeee Cafe is a Korean federated community drawing app that recently launched mobile apps on iOS and Android. You can follow users there from here in the fediverse already but not sure if you can submit drawings remotely yet.

planet.moe

오에카키(비툴) 커뮤니티 오이카페 🥒 (@oeee_cafe@planet.moe)

오이카페 모바일 앱이 출시되었어요! 베타 테스트에 참여해주신 여러분, 오이카페에서 활동해 주시는 여러분 모두 응원해주셔서 감사합니다 🥒📲 🥰 iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oeee-cafe/id6754636117 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cafe.oeee

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@cocoa@hackers.pub

I making auto-translated FEP document for Japanese, trying local models...

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@hongminhee@hollo.social · Reply to wakest likes your bugs ⁂

@liaizon @julian @rick To be honest, I'm not really waiting for FEP standardization. It's more likely that the task of adding the GTS interaction policy vocabulary to Fedify will be included in the roadmap for the next version. (Or maybe the one after that.) Only after that prerequisite work is done can support for Mastodon-style quote posts be added to Fedify, I think.

github.com

GoToSocial interaction policy vocabulary · Issue #453 · fedify-dev/fedify

Summary GoToSocial has developed a comprehensive interaction policy system that allows actors to specify who can interact with their posts and how. This system is now being adopted by other impleme...

@hongminhee@hollo.social

There's now a proper rendered web interface for FEPs at https://fediverse.codeberg.page/fep/fep/*/, which is much nicer to read than the raw Markdown source on Codeberg. But the canonical permalink, https://w3id.org/fep/*, still redirects to the Markdown file rather than the rendered page.

Would it make sense to update the w3id.org redirect to point to the rendered version instead? It seems like the better experience for anyone following a FEP link, and arguably what a “permanent” link should resolve to—something human-readable.

I'm not sure who manages the w3id.org/fep/ redirect configuration. (It lives in the perma-id/w3id.org GitHub repo, so it would just be a PR, but I'd want to get community consensus first rather than just send one in unilaterally.)

@hongminhee@hollo.social

There's now a proper rendered web interface for FEPs at https://fediverse.codeberg.page/fep/fep/*/, which is much nicer to read than the raw Markdown source on Codeberg. But the canonical permalink, https://w3id.org/fep/*, still redirects to the Markdown file rather than the rendered page.

Would it make sense to update the w3id.org redirect to point to the rendered version instead? It seems like the better experience for anyone following a FEP link, and arguably what a “permanent” link should resolve to—something human-readable.

I'm not sure who manages the w3id.org/fep/ redirect configuration. (It lives in the perma-id/w3id.org GitHub repo, so it would just be a PR, but I'd want to get community consensus first rather than just send one in unilaterally.)

@shiromadara@hackers.pub

日本かアジア圏でActivityPubとかオープンデータとかシビックテックのカンファレンスやイベントがあればちょっとずつ参加していきたいな。英語もまた話せるように鍛え直さないと…

@shiromadara@hackers.pub

シビックテックで取り組んでる課題をチームの皆で話してて、データはJSON-LDで記述したほうが良さそうとか、いずれシェア機能が欲しいねとか、コンテンツはオープンデータ化を前提としてデータの帰属は市民や地域コミュニティとしたいね等々を話し合う中で、「なんか…ActivityPub感…」と思った。
ActivityPubをオープンデータの流通・蓄積・活用の際に用いている取り組みとかって、あるのかな?
Open GLAMなどでありそうな気もするけど、どうなんだろ。

@tenjuu99@hollo.tenjuu.net · Reply to tenjuu99(天重誠二)

AIがバイナリを吐きだすとかの妄言が意味わからないのは、効率の問題もあるけど(バイナリより高級言語のほうが情報のせられる)、開いた状態のものを閉じた状態に戻そうとするからだし、たぶん並列AIに対して関心がもてないのもそこで、AIが理解すればいいだけになると過程全体が閉じてるからだとおもう。

@tenjuu99@hollo.tenjuu.net

成果物と成果物を生成するシステムがある意味交換可能で可視的というのは、現代の特徴かもしれない

@hongminhee@hollo.social · Reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite That last point about oxygen in the room is, I think, the most important thing you've said in this whole exchange—and I find myself largely agreeing with it. The current concentration of resources around a handful of private models is itself what makes the political organizing you'd need for a public alternative so difficult. We agree on the diagnosis more than it might appear.

Where I'd push back, gently, is on the sequencing. “We can't build the structures now, so we wait for the collapse” assumes that the aftermath will be more legible than it probably will be. The people who made billions, as you say, won't go silently—and they'll have a head start on shaping whatever comes next. I'd rather that there be some idea of what “next” should look like, articulated now, even imperfectly, than have that conversation start from scratch in the wreckage.

On the hubris point: I share your discomfort with “built to create God.” But I'd distinguish between the AGI ambitions of specific companies and the underlying technology. The former is what I'd most want to see deflated. What survives that deflation is the open question.

@cocoa@hackers.pub

I have archived the apmodel repository. While developing apkit, I encountered the problematic aspects of apmodel, so I plan to redesign it. This does not mean I intend to abandon apkit.

@hongminhee@hollo.social · Reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite The Jevons point is well taken, but I think the assumption that model size and model capability move in lockstep is already starting to break down. Smaller, more specialized models have been closing the gap with frontier models faster than most people expected a couple of years ago. That doesn't settle the question, but it does suggest the trajectory isn't as fixed as the current “bigger is better” trend implies.

On IP: I think that argument assumes the legal and social framework around training data is static. If a public foundation model existed, the question of how its training data was collected would be negotiated very differently—with public accountability, with legislative pressure, with the possibility of opt-in or compensated datasets. The current situation is partly so bad because private actors made unilateral decisions with no one to answer to. That changes when the entity doing the training is public.

But honestly, what strikes me most about your last message is that we may be closer in position than the argument suggests. You're saying rejection is symbolic, but useful as a social signal that could hasten the collapse of the current unsustainable model. I'm not sure I disagree with that. Where we differ, I think, is in what we expect to find in the ruins. You seem to expect something more modest and less harmful to emerge on its own. I'm less confident about that—I think what fills the vacuum depends heavily on what political and social structures we've built in the meantime. Which is, I suppose, exactly why I think the direction of reclamation matters now, even if the specific path is still unclear.

@kodingwarrior@silicon.moe

연합우주를 어떻게하면 사람들이 더 자발적으로 다가오고 더 재밌는 컨텐츠로 만들 수 있을까? 라는 고민이 들면서도 한편으로는 니치한 것 자체가 연합우주의 감성이 아닌가 싶은 생각이 들고, 한편으로는 내가 만드는 연합우주 서비스 자체만으로 사람들에게 어필이 되었으면 좋겠고 복잡한 생각이 드는 것이다..

@hongminhee@hollo.social · Reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite You raise fair points, and I don't think I can fully refute them. The Uber analogy is genuinely worrying, and I share your concern about what “profitability” will eventually mean for people who currently depend on LLMs as tools.

That said, I think there's a tension in your argument worth examining. You note that LLMs are still fledgling and heavily subsidized, and I agree. But that same fledgling status means we're also at the beginning of the efficiency curve, not the end. Inference costs have dropped dramatically over the past two years, and experiments like DeepSeek suggest training costs can fall significantly too. “It's expensive now” and “it will always be expensive” are two different claims, and I don't think the first settles the second.

On the redundancy point: the current setup has every major company independently training overlapping foundation models in competition with each other, which is itself an enormous waste. If every software company built its own operating system from scratch instead of sharing one, the cost of software development would be staggering. Public infrastructure like CERN works precisely because the baseline investment is shared, and innovation happens on top of it. I think a similar logic applies here, even if the path there is unclear.

But the question I keep coming back to is: what does rejection actually achieve? If the goal is to limit the harms you describe—the IP violations, the labor displacement, the toll-booth dynamic—it's not obvious to me that individuals and communities blocking scrapers meaningfully slows any of that down. The companies driving this have enough momentum and capital that our refusal mostly affects us. I'm not saying refusal is wrong; I'm genuinely uncertain. I just think the burden of demonstrating impact falls on both sides of this argument, not only on mine.