Elena Rossini ⁂
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Ouf knowing this, now I will simply keep my #Instagram, #Threads and #LinkedIn accounts deactivated ad infinitum... so that they won't be taken over by someone else 😐
@[email protected] · Reply to Elena Rossini ⁂'s post
Ouf knowing this, now I will simply keep my #Instagram, #Threads and #LinkedIn accounts deactivated ad infinitum... so that they won't be taken over by someone else 😐
imo if #threads want to still partake in the #fediverse, they’re going to need to allow 3rd party clients. I know they won’t since it’ll stop them from tracking, showing ads, and serving the for you algo, but I’m just reading more and more about Surf, OpenVibe, and all of these apps which need it..
Literally do not care what people's #politics look like beyond "not a literal fascist". I don't care if you're an anarchist, a communist, a neoliberal, a member of the #DemocraticParty establishment, whatever.
As long as you are active on the #Fediverse, rather than being exclusive to #Twitter and/or #BlueSky and/or #Threads, you are taking things in the right direction. Anyone who's on here is my ally in that sense, even the people who never say anything about politics at all.
Edit:
This is also something to keep in mind when considering whether or not to block other servers or push people out of the network: we are all here to not be elsewhere.
一方Threadsは年越しそばイベントを!
このあたり色々「らしい」と思った👉️「イベント期間中は日替わりで3組のお笑い芸人が来場し、接客をしたり、参加者のThreads投稿をサポートしたりする予定です」
/ Threadsが年越しそば専門店をオープン!今年のエピソードを綴って、そばをすすろう | Facebook Japan合同会社のプレスリリース https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000004.000032777.html
Meine #MeTacheles Ausgabe 👉 https://www.metacheles.de/warum-ich-facebook-threads-verlasse/ weshalb ich #Facebook & #Threads verlasse.... die kam offensichtlich nicht bei allen gut an.
Aber zu glauben dass ich, wenn ich das #Fediverse als die Plattform-Idee der Zukunft feiere, auch in Zukunft umsonst arbeiten muesste... das ist schon mal ne steile Theorie!
P.S. Newsletter und Podcast haben eine kurze Werbeeinblendung & einen Hinweis auf meinen Paypal-Account
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We believe that your online presence shouldn't be controlled by a single person or organisation. We think it should belong to you.
That's why we want to help for-good organisations own their home on social media.
ThreadsやBlueskyの投稿をテーマ別に串刺し表示できる「Surf」β公開 - ITmedia NEWS
https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/2412/19/news122.html
『#Surf は、分散型ソーシャルネットワークプロトコルの「#ActivityPub」と「#ATProtocol」、#RSS をベースに構築されており、関心のある事柄を中心に人物、動画、記事、画像、ポッドキャストを整理したカスタムフィードを構築し、閲覧できるアプリ。
β段階では、「#Threads」「#Bluesky」「#YouTube」「#Mastodon」…などの投稿を、テーマや#(ハッシュタグ)でカスタムフィードにできる』
Flipboard launches Surf, an app to create custom feeds from Mastodon, Threads, Bluesky, RSS, podcasts, & YouTube! 🎧📱 Now in beta on iOS, Android, & iPadOS. #Flipboard #SurfApp #TechNews #SocialMedia #Podcasts #RSS #Mastodon #Threads #Bluesky
"Surf, a new kind of browser for a new kind of web — the open social web.
Built on AT Proto, ActivityPub and RSS, you can easily create and surf custom feeds that organize people, videos, articles and podcasts around the things you care about."
More at https://surf.social/ (beta program)
Well, seems it's mobile only, this means I'll pass for now. And it appears, for these guys, Bluesky is part of the Fediverse... OK, nevermind.
#HOWTO get friends on #Bluesky, #Facebook, #Instagram, and #Threads to follow you on #Mastodon:
1. Translate your Fedi address to Bluesky and Threads addresses using the attached guide. Replace `@` with `%40` in the Threads link.
2. Follow @bsky.brid.gy for your Bluesky friends. Share your Bluesky link and encourage them to follow @ap.brid.gy there.
3. Ask your non-Threads friends on Facebook and Instagram to join Threads and enable #Fediverse sharing. Share your Threads link.
Threads is working on scheduled posts
https://www.engadget.com/social-media/threads-is-working-on-scheduled-posts-215537909.html?src=rss
Another week is over, time for new stats regarding traffic to @heiseonline: It seems like there is a new balance with #Mastodon in front, #Bluesky brings now half as much. Although we stopped posting to #X, it still brings in more than #Threads and roughly as much as #Flipboard.
(🧵 1/4)
#Fediverse 連携有効な #threads のアカウントを #Mastodon な #VivaldiSocial からフォローしてみていると、もはやそのアカウントが #Threads にいるものかどうかもあまり意識しなくなるなあ
> リンクを含む投稿の優先度を下げる「リンクはメインではなくリプライに入れろ」というマスクの表明に、(自分の文章の告知を含む)リンクの共有こそがSNSの利用意義であるワタシも心が折れたところがありました。
https://wirelesswire.jp/2024/12/87795/
これ、気持ちわかるなあ。
(自分はもっと前の「サードパーティー開発者に対して予告無しに API を遮断した」あたりからもう折れていたけど)
イーロン・マスクのこのリンク含む投稿についての表明よりずっと前(買収前?)から、仕組み上はリンクのある投稿の優先順位は下げられていたみたいな話も見たような気もするけど、そもそも Web のプラットフォームで外部リンク推奨しないなんてはっきり言われると「ああ、やっぱり #X なんて、もはやそういう場所だよねー」という気持ちはより強くなるよな…
広告目線とかで見れば #X に限らず自分のドメインから離脱させたくないのはある意味では当然なんだけど、この記事にも書いてある通り政治にも大きな影響を持つようになった #SocialMedia #SNS に対して、そういう広告ビジネス的な発想で「外部リンク非推奨もまあ仕方ないというか当然だよね、無料で使ってるわけだし」みたいにプラットフォームのビジネスに妙におもねった理解をユーザーが示してしまうのも問題なんじゃないかと思ってて、とくに #SocialMedia みたいな性質のものは、ビジネス的にそのプラットフォームが成り立つかどうかって話の前にユーザーがそこでどんなコミュニケーションをとってどんな気持ちになって何を得るのか、みたいなことが先にあるべきのような気がするんだけど、最近はそれが逆転して、プラットフォームの存続のためにユーザーは課金して対戦型コミュニケーションを勝ち残るための武装するのである!ネガティブであろうがなんだろうがインプレッション至上主義、群雄割拠の対戦型マーケティングプラットフォーム!みたいになっちゃっているように見える。
そういう意味で、オープンな技術の上で小さなプラットフォーム同士がつながる #Fediverse は、#BlueSky のように過去の #Twitter やいまの #X の規模のプラットフォームにそのまま取って代わる力はなくても、「次の #Twitter」ではないなにか、になる可能性はむしろ #BlueSky よりあるんじゃないかと個人的には思っているけど、この記事は全くもって #Fediverse や #Mastodon への言及もなければ #Threads の 連携の話もなくて、この文脈の記事としてはとても残念(書き直し!
Threads is rolling out its own take on Bluesky’s “Starter Packs,” which are curated lists of suggested accounts that help new users find people to follow.
#threads #bluesky #starter #packs #socialmedia
https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/12/threads-rolls-out-its-own-version-of-blueskys-starter-packs/
@[email protected] · Reply to fedipact.online's post
wow it looks like somebody was more clever than i anticipated
posts with content warnings just straight-up do NOT appear in threads. period. at all. ever
tested this by making an account on mastodon.social and an account on threads.net
then posted my nudes to .social and attempted to make them show up on the threads side
nothing. damn. they really thought ahead. this was never a worry to begin with. those devious fucking shitstains
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A de-centralized, federated network, using a common, NON-COMMERCIAL, #FOSS protocol, such as the #fediverse can actually save lives and fight the onslaught of dezinformatsiya.
#Meshtastic #GMRS devices were used to keep people connected, sending messages through #ActivityPub based clients, during catastrophic weather events which knocked standard comms networks down.
#DTBO socmedia (such as #BlueSky, #Threads, #Telegram, etc) were actively used to disseminate #dezinformatsiya, during those catastrophic events, and other emergencies.
Taking the internet back from walled-garden, corporate, proprietary networks can mean the difference between life or death for many.
Government should not be owned, operated or focused on corporations, but be by People, for People.
Twitter (x) API v2 documentation is crap, the API has a very HIGH price and is just not worth it. #Mastodon, #BlueSky and #Threads are MILES ahead, I am not sure why people keep using Twitter, honestly, I don't see a future.
People may say Elon did great with all the cutting costs and layoffs, but it is going to be his slowly demise.
Why is Meta adding fediverse interoperability to Threads?
Threads has taken a significant step towards their fediverse integration this week: people can now follow fediverse accounts from Threads. Although caveats apply, it marks a milestone in the process, and it has taken Meta over a year and a half to get here. This milestone provides a moment to reflect on what and why Meta is working towards.
When Threads first announced that they would implement ActivityPub, one of the crucial questions was: ‘Why?’ Why does the company that mastered the concept of ‘walled gardens’ suddenly care about decentralisation and interoperability? Why does one of the world’s richest companies that has made a gazillion dollars by keeping people locked onto their platform suddenly care about giving people freedom?
The Verge asked this of Mosseri, ‘why are you doing this at all?’ Mosseri spends almost his entire answer on account portability for creators, saying that Threads will be a more compelling place for creators if they have the safety of knowing they are able to take their audience with them if they decide to leave Threads one day. A short sentence at the end of his answer is more pragmatic, saying that Threads is ‘trying to lean into where the world is going’. Still, Mosseri is clear in his answer: the reason for Threads to implement ActivityPub is so that they can implement account portability and people can leave Threads more easily if they want to. In another interview, Zuckerberg is also asked a similar question, and he gives a similar answer, saying: “So, in a way, that actually makes people feel more confident investing in a system if they know that they have freedom over how they operate.”
So here we have a clear answer by the two top people of Meta. Why does Threads implement ActivityPub? Because they think that people are more likely to choose Threads when they know they have the freedom to move to a different platform.
Reality is quite different, however. It’s been a year and a half since Threads first started working on implementing ActivityPub, and only just this week they finally released the first version of an implementation that even remotely resembles two-way federation. The amount of exceptions and barriers to actually using federation between Threads and the rest of the fediverse are significant however. Most importantly, you cannot search for people on the fediverse from Threads. So while you can theoretically follow fediverse people now, you immediately run into the problem of finding the people you want to follow.
If you want to follow someone on the fediverse from Threads, you first have to enable fediverse integration and click to a scary warning. Then you have to find a post that has a like or reply by a fediverse account, click on that account and hit follow from there. This means that interaction between the fediverse and Threads is completely serendipitous, depending on which fediverse accounts you happen to come across on Threads.
But this is not the only strange thing about Threads’ fediverse integration: there is a 15 minute delay before posts from Threads appear in the fediverse, preventing any real-time communication between the network. It also kills off the potential to use the connection for sport events or breaking news, where the delay of 15 minutes is highly impactful.
Meta does not provide statistics about how many people use the fediverse integration on Threads, nor does their implementation of ActivityPub include the common NodeInfo endpoint. NodeInfo is used by most ActivityPub software to provide more information about the server. However, we can get quite some information about the actual usage of Threads’ fediverse integration, and that is by looking at the mastodon.social server.
Mastodon.social ‘knows’ about 21k Threads accounts, as per early Nov 2024. For a Mastodon server to ‘know’ about a Threads account, it means that any post of that Threads account has appeared on a timeline of a mastodon.social user, or someone on mastodon.social has searched (not necessarily followed) for that Threads account.
Mastodon.social is not the entire fediverse, but does account for a quarter of all active users on the fediverse. It stands also in contrast with other fediverse servers, who regularly block access to Threads: 9 out of the 20 most active fediverse servers have cut connections to Threads.
So while we cannot know the exact number of Threads accounts who use the fediverse connection, we can make an educated guess based on the Mastodon.social statistics. Personally I think it is likely that less than 50k Threads users have enabled federation. The Threads-fediverse connection is not particularly popular either in the other direction: Barack Obama is the most popular account on Threads, and only 3400 followers of his 6.2 million total followers come from the fediverse.
The fediverse integration for Threads is not available for EU users. Meta has been slower to roll out Threads to European users in general. Threads launched in July 2023, and only became available to people in the EU in December 2023. News reports blame the delay of launching Threads in the EU on the complexities of the DMA, with Mosseri blaming “the complexities with complying with some of the laws coming into effect next year”.
But that is for Threads in general. For the fediverse integration, to the best of my knowledge (please share sources) Threads has not given a direct explanation as to why it is not yet available. During an AMA in August 2024, Threads simply stated: “We’re working on bringing a federated Threads experience to the EU as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience with us 🫶”.
While compliance with European regulation is surely not easy, ActivityPub and the fediverse are also not incompatible with compliance either. The European Data Protection Supervisor was the first European agency to launch a fediverse platform for EU organisations with EU Voice. When their pilot project ended in spring 2024, the EDPS concluded: “The EDPS’ pilot project of EU Voice and EU Video proves that community-driven and decentralised social media platforms may prioritise users’ fundamental rights to privacy and personal data, and foster the EU’s digital sovereignty.”
Just to point out the obvious: Meta is a company with an incredible amount of resources, and employs highly talented people. When the company feels competitive pressure, they are capable of moving incredibly quickly. Threads now feels competitive pressure from Bluesky, and it took Threads less than two weeks to build Starter Packs, Custom Feeds, a better search tool, shift stance on default feeds, and mimic Bluesky’s UI. That is all to say: the speed at which Meta delivers a product is deliberate. It is not an accident, and Meta is certainly not a company that is resource-constrained. If Meta wants to do something, it will do something.
The European Union has made a big deal of their Digital Markets Act (DMA), that aims to increase competition in European digital markets, and targets the Big Tech platforms. The DMA takes aim at gatekeepers in a variety of markets, from search engines to browsers to communications platforms. It gradually rolled out in 2023 and 2024, to much hype about how we could totally have interoperable communications platforms when WhatsApp would become interoperable.
It is now the end of 2024, and WhatsApp is now compliant with the DMA. There are zero apps that people in the EU can use that natively interoperate with WhatsApp. This is not for a lack of technology: I have seen demos this year that showed this capability, fully functional, I’ve held the phone. The technology exists. There is a simple reason why it is not available in the EU, and that is because Meta does not want it to be available.
A blog post by Matrix explains the situation in detail, but the crux of the matter is: Meta has interpreted the DMA in such a way that every other app that wants to connect with WhatsApp has to show proof for each user that they are physically geolocated in the EU. It goes against the mission of Matrix to track their users like that, and the same goes for other chatting apps. So we end up in a situation where the DMA is in effect, Meta is compliant, and nothing has changed. Meta applied the rules in a way that people could theoretically interoperate with WhatsApp. However, the practical barriers are significant enough that Meta is comfortable knowing likely nobody will be able to implement the interoperability in practice.
To summarise:
Based on the above, I do not believe Mark Zuckerberg when, talking about decentralised social networks, he says that he has “always believed in this stuff.” I think there is another explanation as to why Threads is building a fediverse integration, but not rolling it out in the EU.
My take is that Threads is likely using the fediverse integration as a future bargaining chip with the EU. The EU is pushing towards more interoperability with the Digital Markets Act, and on the matter of social networking has designated Meta as a Gatekeeper with Facebook and Instagram (but not Threads!). Meta has shown that they are not a particularly huge fan of the additional interoperability requirements, to put things mildly. When the EU will push harder on the DMA interoperability requirements for Facebook and Instagram, Meta now has something to show the EU: “Look at how difficult this is! Give us more time, and make the requirements less stringent. We can totally do interoperability, look Threads in the rest of the world, just not in the EU with all your complicated regulations”.
I’ll be the first to point out that this is speculation. But I have a hard time coming up with a better answer as to why Threads is building the fediverse integration. There are few people who make use of the feature, and it does not seem to be contributing to growth. Threads is not even bothering to build it in such a manner that aligns with their stated goal of providing account portability. So why does this feature exist? Until I have a clearer answer, I personally find it hard to cheer on Meta and celebrate the Threads-fediverse connection as a win for the open social web.
https://fediversereport.com/why-is-meta-adding-fediverse-interoperability-to-threads/
Did you know that Towards Data Science is also on #Threads? 📣 Follow us for all the latest and greatest research, expert articles + more 👉 https://www.threads.net/@towardsdatascience
For those of you who have accounts on both #Mastodon and #Threads, now that following works in both directions, are you going to:
Option | Voters |
---|---|
Keep and post to both Mastodon and Threads | 1 (25%) |
Drop the Mastodon account in favor of Threads | 1 (25%) |
Drop the Threads account in favor of Mastodon | 2 (50%) |
Other (please leave a comment) | 0 (0%) |
If you're wanting a human-curated list of nice, reliable servers that do not federate with Threads, here you go:
All of the servers are listed on the site with the permission of their admins, and are compatible with the rules detailed at https://fedi.garden/about-this-site
(If you run a Fediverse server that is compatible with these rules and would like to be listed, send me a message!)
After #Threads made a small step in to the #Fediverse a reminder for all here on #Mastodon #SocialMedia #Decentralized
Will #Meta get my data or be able to track me?
Answer: No.
Will Meta be able to show me #ads?
Answer: No.
Will a large platform like Meta joining Mastodon overwhelm smaller servers?
Answer: No
More follow this link:
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/
遂にThreads側からFediverse側のアカウントをフォローバックできるようになったと!
現時点ではいいねやリプなどの形で関わってきた人をフォローバックする形でしかフォローできなさそうで、まだまだ最初の一歩ではあるけど。
#threads #fediverse #fedibird
QT: https://www.threads.net/@mosseri/post/DDKjIdtv0OR [参照]
Exciting update for those of you following our fediverse journey – starting today, you can follow people from other fediverse servers who have interacted with federated users or posts on Threads. You can see their posts by navigating to their profile, and you can also choose to be notified when they post on their server. More interop features are on the way, stay tuned 🙏🏼
#Misskey 與其分支可能收不到來自 #Threads 的貼文,原因是因為傳輸的資料中, note url 與 note uri 的主機名稱不同,導致 Misskey 拒絕接收。我不確定在 ActivityPub 的規範中,是否有定義主機名稱一定要相同,不過在 #Mastodon 是可以正常接收的。failedReason: 'note url & uri host mismatch: note url: https://www.threads.net/@bsdlite/post/C-ZQYKuSRWV, note uri: https://threads.net/ap/users/17841410621326215/post/18118286614353715/',
Wow, it's happening!
People on Threads can now follow you if you have interacted with their account. Baby steps, but it finally seems to be going somewhere.
Tear down those walls! The Fediverse is about an pen web, not walled gardens.
#Fediverse #Threads #OpenWeb
試しに #Threads アカウントでこのアカウントフォローしてみて、投稿がタイムラインに表示されるか待ってたけど。待てども待てども表示されず…と思ったら、そもそもタイムラインには出ないらしい。😅
https://social.vivaldi.net/@kiyoshileo@threads.net/113596901042691547
#Threads からフェディバースのユーザーを直接フォロー可能に | 気になる、記になる…
https://taisy0.com/2024/12/05/206644.html
『また、フェディバースのユーザーの投稿を見たり、新しい投稿や返信に関する通知を受け取ることができるようにもなる模様。(現時点で筆者の環境ではまだオプションが表示されず)
現時点では他のフェディバースサーバーから発信された投稿に返信することは出来ない為、交流は一方通行となっていますが、責任者のAdam Mosseri氏は今後より多くの相互運用に関する機能が予定されていることを明らかにしています』
ほんとだ!#Threads の私のアカウントからこのアカウント(#Mastodon アカウント)、フォローできた!
ただ結構面倒臭く。
1. Threads のアカウントの投稿に「いいね」
2. Threads のアクティビティで「フェディバースユーザー」を選択
3.「投稿のアクティビティ」で「フェディバースユーザー」を選択
4.「フェディバースのいいね」で自分のアカウントを選択
5. プロフィールページで「フォロー」ボタン。
と言った感じで。すっとフォローできる訳ではないのはちょっと難点だけど。😅
https://social.vivaldi.net/@t_trace@threads.net/113596718685497220
if you're a new follower of mine you should definitely check out https://fedipact.online :3
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
おー、なんか久しぶりに #Threads の #Fediverse 対応が進んだ感じがする!
Wild to see the Threads integration, y’all. I truly love my experience on Mastodon, wild to think Threads people can follow along!
おっ!ホントに!?
#Threads から #Fediverse アカウントをフォローできるようになったの!?フォローできるようになったってことは、タイムラインとかも見られるようになった…??
It's interesting. There's all this celebration about #Threads.net connecting to the #Fediverse …
Am I missing something obvious (very possible) or are people celebrating that Meta/Facebook is now sucking up #Mastodon user data?
Eugen congratulating #Threads for allowing their users to follow #Fediverse users, while in the meantime, following and interacting with Threads users from the Fediverse is still opt-in... 🙄
Meta is definitely embracing #federation half-heartedly.
Looks like two way federation with Threads is starting now.
It'll be very interesting to see how this works out.
#journalists, we’re not going on #threads or #bluesky or #deadbird
Now that #Threads users are able to follow fediverse accounts, everyone should check with their instance admin, or this handy tool, to see if their instance is federated with or blocking Threads. If you're concerned about your data being harvested by Zuck and the Meta machine, consider moving to an instance that is part of the #Fedipact or is actively blocking Threads.
https://fedipact.veganism.social
Threads takes another step forward today and allows you to follow fediverse accounts...with some major stipulations.
There's no search capability. Instead, you have to find a reply or like that a federated account created, view their profile, and follow from there.
So sure, you can follow fediverse accounts, but this greatly reduces the scope of discovery.
Curious if fediverse accounts can be included in their upcoming public lists feature (starter kits)?
Ha, figured out out to bridge my Threads account to Bluesky. Not that I'll use it, but it is possible #threads
Threads is mocking AP users at this point.😒
Threads users can now "follow" Fediverse users that have replied to a post already existing on threads.
-Cant search for Fediverse users and follow them normally.
-Cant see Fediverse posts if they're not a reply, even if you follow.
-Cant reply or mention a Fediverse user
WHAT DOES THIS EVEN DO?!?!?
Woah, just followed my #Fediverse account from #threads . They actually did it 😅
Well...30 more days till I'll have to defederate from Threads for not fulfilling their promise of fully federating by the end of the year.
Will they pull it off? Doesn't seem likely at this point.😒🤦♂️
Proving us all right in the end, it seems.
When did #Threads begin requiring the app or account login to view unfederated content? I won't bother clicking through any more, I guess.
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
や の弱いところを肯定的に捉えすぎてる偏った意見かもしれない。
自分自身、いまは #X アカウントも削除してしまったし #BlueSky も今のところアカウントは作らずに見送って、をこの #VivaldiSocial だけをほぼ唯一のメインの #SocialMedia アカウントとして2年近く使っていて、#Threads もアカウントは作ったものの 連携を有効にしているアカウントだけ(それももう100アカウント以上はフォローはしている)をここ からリストにまとめて覗き見しているくらいなので、見方によっては偏っているんだろうなという自覚もある。
でも、ユーザー数の多い場所でたくさんの意見をみていたら偏っていないということになるのか、どんな規模のサービス常駐していようが、そもそも世界には国の検閲をかいくぐって特定の Web サービスにアクセスする必要がある人もいれば、自分から Web サービスに距離を置く人だっているし、#SocialMedia みたいなものを見たり投稿したりしている時点で偏りのないスタンスなんて存在しないんじゃないか、という気持ちもある。だったら自分の偏りに自覚的になった上で自分とは違う景色が見えている人の意見とかを目にするほうがまだ健全なんじゃないか、みたいなことも思っている。極論かもしれないけど
My take on the current #Bluesky, #Threads, Mastodon / #Fediverse Landscape: https://www.timothychambers.net/2024/11/28/a-quick-snapshot.html
#Threads を覗いたら通知に7件も溜まっていたので見てみたら、全部「Pick for You」というラベルがついたフォローしていない人の投稿だった。
自分に興味がありそうな人の投稿をサジェストしてあげるよ!という機能なんだろうと理解していて、まあそれはそれでもいいんだけど、通知に混ぜ込んでくるのは良くないなー
#Threads がここ最近全然 #Fediverse 周りの対応について新しい更新情報が出てこないので、「やつらは EU に便宜をはかるために 対応進めてるだけ」みたいなことを言い始める人(英語)が流れてきてる…
前からもそういう懐疑的な見方するひとはいたけど、たしかに #Fediverse 完全対応がいつになるのかいまだによくわかんない状況だと気持ちはわからなくはない…
Threads keeps building new features and they seem to have completely forgotten about the Fediverse integration. I wonder if Threads folks are ever able to use it in the EU and whether we will be ever fully interact with them both directions.
For way over a year now I'm sharing data on #traffic from #Mastodon, #Twitter etc. to heise.de, always hoping someone else adds another perspective. Turns out, #Bluesky had to come along 😉 :
Both at the #BostonGlobe and #TheGuardian Bluesky already easily beats #Threads.
@[email protected] · Reply to Erlend Sogge Heggen's post
@erlend Yes, protocols are a technical tool, not an end in themselves.
もうX(旧Twitter)のトレンド機能はいらない? Threadsが新たにトレンドランキング機能を搭載【やじうまWatch】 - INTERNET Watch
https://internet.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/yajiuma/1642856.html
『今回、#Threads に新たに搭載されたのが、X(旧Twitter)と同様のトレンドのランキング表示機能。ユーザーのエンゲージメントに基づいて選定されるとのことで、トピックの数は最大5つと少ないが、コンテンツの専門家がトピックを精査しているとしており、今のところはトピック選定にスパムの影響などの不自然さを感じることもない』
@threads fa un avançament a @bsky.app i afegeix 35 millions d'usuaris aquest novembre
https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/26/24306591/threads-35-million-signups-november-growth
«Per la dreta» #SocialNetwork #Bluesky #Threads #xarxessocials
When I talk about the importance of going all in on the Fediverse, I speak based on experience.
At Opera we built a massive user community. When I quit, we had something like 35 million registered users and 35 million monthly visitors.
The new Opera management did not see the value of that. They believed it was cheaper and better to just use Facebook and that investing in your own community was a waste of money. So they closed down MyOpera and built a following on Facebook and Twitter instead. Then they got caught by the bait and switch when Facebook changed and you would no longer reach your audience, without paying. Later on Twitter changed as well.
This is important to explain to companies and institutions as they go shopping for social media sites to invest in. The best investment is clearly in your own site, being part of the Fediverse. It is not even all that expensive to do. It may take longer to build, but at least it is your own.
Not saying you cannot build a following on those other sites, but your long term strategy should be the Fediverse with your own server.
We try to lead the way here and thus we build Vivaldi Social. Not just for our selves, but to make a point and support the Fediverse.
#Threads blocks #EU residents from posting using #activitypub / #mastodon protocol.
Updated #BlueSky my handle!
https://bsky.app/profile/fortyseven.network47.org
Aww yiss. No worries, though. #Mastodon is my primary home. But it's good to diversify. Let's not put our eggs in one basket ever again. :P
(I'm not putting much effort into #Threads though. Already has that corporate stink about it. 🤢)
There's content you want to see but which doesn't make Meta money.
There's content you don't want to see, but which makes Meta money.
They're trying to strike the right balance between maximising profit while not having you leave.
Don't expect your interest to line up with that of any corporation.
#Threads たしかに最初の予定ではそろそろ #Fefiverse に完全対応するんじゃなかった?(2024年末とかになにかマイルストーンがあった気がする
@[email protected] · Reply to でもでも's post
@[email protected] · Reply to Flipboard's post
Who do you think @mike should interview next year? We're all ears 👂
#Fediverse #DotSocial #Federation #ActivityPub #Podcast #OpenSocial #OpenSocialWeb #SocialWeb #WalledGardens #Threads #Bluesky
@[email protected] · Reply to Flipboard's post
We also cut up some YouTube Shorts for newbies: Here's a playlist that includes @Gargron, @jay.bsky.team, @johnonolan, @molly0xfff and @ben.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxOZLwweDAo&list=PLtZ3QXAltC7wdAaUkwlLqvZkVELsJ2fdq
#Fediverse #DotSocial #Federation #ActivityPub #Podcast #OpenSocial #OpenSocialWeb #WalledGardens #Threads #Bluesky #YouTubeShorts
Our podcast about the fediverse, Dot Social, is one today! 🎉 It’s been such an honor to host the builders of the social web on this show and to learn from them. We have one more episode coming up in 2024 (read the blogpost to find out who @mike will be chatting with) then rest, then back at it in 2025.
https://about.flipboard.com/fediverse/dot-social-podcast-about-the-fediverse/
#Fediverse #DotSocial #Federation #ActivityPub #Podcast #OpenSocial #OpenSocialWeb #WalledGardens #Threads #Bluesky
"Decentralised social media is more than just a technical shift; it's a step toward restoring autonomy and trust in our digital lives, empowering individuals and communities to connect without compromising their values or privacy."
A study by the Oxford Martin School at the University of Oxford finds that decentralised social media leads to citizen empowerment.
https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/news/decentralised-social-media-increases-citizen-empowerment
#SocialMedia #Fediverse #Decentralised #Decentralized #Mastodon #Bluesky #Threads #X #Empowerment
Last Week in the #ATmosphere:
- 20 million accounts on #Bluesky
- #Threads is taking the competition with Bluesky serious; Bluesky might be closer in size to Threads than thought
- experiments with visualising the firehose
- and a ton of links
Read at: https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-the-atmosphere-2411-c/
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
ちょっと追記、
この観点でいうと、自分から見ると #BlueSky は結局「#BlueSky へおいでよ」にしか見えないんだよな…
その点、 #Mastodon は 「 においでよ」とは言ってない。
あ、いや、言ってるかもしれないけど、それだけじゃない。
別に じゃなくてもいい、#Misskey でも #Pixelfed でも #Threads が #ActivityPub に完全対応すれば #Threads だっていい。
「#X から #BlueSky に大移動!これからは #BlueSky の時代!」とか「いまこそ #Threads でインフルエンサーになっておくべき!」みたいな「どこの #SocialMedia にいくべき」みたいな語り口をみると、たとえるなら「いつまでメールのプロバイダーはどこがいい、みたいな話するつもりなのか。全部メールなんだからメールでいいじゃん。」みたいな気持ちになる…
この「メール」という上位の言葉にあたるのが #Fediverse なのであって、いまは便宜上それに対応しているサービスとしてないサービスがあるから #Fediverse って呼んでるだけで、つまりは汎用的な相互に連携できる #SocialMedia のことだし、しかもその仕様は ちゃんと #W3C で #ActivityPub という形で標準化もされてるわけで、さらに実際にそれで連携したいろんなサービスやソフトウェアが存在している(#BlueSky の #ATProtocol とはちがって)んだから、これからはそういう「標準化されたソーシャルメディア」の時代にしようぜ!という気持ちのほうが強い。
全然追記がちょっとじゃなかった…
やっぱり「#X から引っ越す」ということになると #BlueSky が選ばれやすいんだろうなー
分散型といいつつ実際には 1 つのサーバーに集中してるし、そうなってることで #X から引っ越してくるユーザーにとっては分散型がどうとかプロトコルがどうとかそういう #Twitter 時代にはなかった概念を覚える必要もなく使えるし、なおかつ UI も #Twitter にかなり寄せてある。
リアルな引っ越しでも、言葉とか習慣が違う慣れない土地より、土地勘のある場所のほうが気楽だろうし。
#BlueSky にいまひとが増えてるというのもまた「人が多いところにだったら行ってもいい」みたいな、誰もが持ってる「群にはついていきたい」という気持ちが背中を押すところもあるんだろうな…
そう考えると、自分は #Fediverse という夢をみているのかもしれない。その夢を重ねてこの場所を見ているから素敵な場所に見えているのかもしれない。
でも #Fediverse は夢としてはなかなか悪くない夢だし、実際のところ現実に今存在する というこの場所は、なかなか良い場所なんだよ、少なくとも自分にとっては。
たとえ人が集まらなくたっていい、なぜなら #ActivityPub でほかのサーバーとも繋がれるんだから!というのは、なんというか、すごく肩の荷が降りる世界観なんだよな…
もう、どの #SocialMedia に登録してる・してないということを気にしなくていいんだ… みたいな気持ちになるんだよ。
それこそ、#X にいこうが #BlueSky にいこうが #Threads にいこうが、それぞれにいるアカウントはどこからでもフォローできるんだ、という世界観。
分散型がどうとかプロトコルがどうとか、本当は自分もそういう話をしたいわけじゃなくて(そもそも自分もそんなに詳しくないし)、そういう #SocialMedia 同士の壁が無くなる世界観の話がしたいんだよな、きっと。
#Threads はやっぱりはやく #Fediverse に完全対応してもらいたいなー(計画ではいつころなんだっけ…?
Choose Your Fighter: Microblogging Edition
#Threads
❌ Algorithm-first, making it more difficult to be discovered
❌ AI-powered moderation with little transparency or accountability
#Bluesky
❌ Owned by VCs and crypto bros with no clear revenue plan
❌ One investor away from becoming Twitter 2.0
#Mastodon
✅ Community-owned and billionaire-proof
✅ No ads, no tracking, no algorithms
#SocialMedia can actually be yours again. Choose freedom and #privacy. Choose the #Fediverse 🌍✨
@[email protected] · Reply to Martin Holland's post
If the top 10% posting on #Threads and #Bluesky federate/bridge, you can basically get all the content on #Mastodon & #Fediverse.
Maybe with a certain follower number you could get bridged auomatically, @snarfed.org? Could be a middle ground between all opt-in vs. all opt-out?
On the #Vergecast @imdavidpierce said something like: On every #SocialNetwork 90% of the users read, 9% post a bit and 1% post almost everything.
This does sound right, and for #Mastodon, #Threads and #Bluesky it would mean, that they don't need to be connected fully. 👇🏼
Allein, dass es #Meta in all den Jahren nicht geschafft hat, #Instagram, geschweige denn #Threads mit einer #iPad-App zu versorgen, ist ein absolutes Armutszeugnis. 🤷♂️
@[email protected] · Reply to Sascha Pallenberg 🇹🇼 ♻️ ⚡'s post
@pallenberg 👍 Ich war anfänglich auch recht gehyped auf #Threads. Aber irgendwie ist es eingeschlafen — ganz automatisch. Im Nachgang war ich vom Algorithmus einfach wieder überfordert.
Das #Fediverse bindet halt schon sehr. Hab mich selten so lange in einer Plattform wohlgefühlt.
Am Tag, an dem der #BGH sein Grundsatzurteil zum Schadenersatz, nach dem millionenfachen Datendiebstahl bei Facebook spricht, erklaere ich, warum ich #Threads & #Facebook verlasse 👉 https://www.metacheles.de/warum-ich-facebook-threads-verlasse/
Ein diplomatischer Rant und eine Ode an freie Protokolle und das #fediverse die so wichtig fuer die Zukunft des Webs sind. Inkl. "Fedi-Box"-Vision 😎
Freue mich ueber eure Boosts, Reposts und das Feedback von euch....
Vielen Dank fuer den Support meiner Arbeit 🙏
Why am I here and not on #Bluesky or #Threads? Because here I am on my own instance, hosted in the EU, and not on a centralised service from the US (which both Bluesky and Threads are) where soon a Trump government is installed that can easily force both Bluesky and Threads to hand over full access to all my data (I am quite sure Musk is already offering the X/Twitter social graph to Trump). That's my personal risk calculation. Yours might be very different. And that's perfectly fine! 1/3
Mark Hamill joined Bluesky.
Stephen King joined Threads.
The Fediverse has Linus Torvalds and Tim Berners-Lee.
“I'm leaving Twitter. Tried to stay, but the atmosphere has just become too toxic.”
- Stephen King
"Even the Master of Horror can't stomach what has become of Twitter (X) since right-wing fascist Elon Musk bought the company."
- Aure
#AureFreePress #News #press #headline #breaking #breakingnews #Musk #Twitter #Mastodon #bluesky #Threads #Fediverse
In the early days of the Web, research institutions and Universities were some of the first to join.
Has your research institute or University joined the Fediverse as yet? How about suggesting to do so? Maybe set up a server yourself, with their permission? We can all contribute to building the Fediverse. This is the best way to build a true social web.
#fediverse #Mastodon #Twitter #Facebook #BlueSky #Threads #university #Research
Joining a social media platform or a protocol, isn't joining a cult.
Live and let live.
Long life to the federation of decentralized social media and to everyone's freedom to choose how they want to participate.
This is not a herd game. #bluesky #mastodon #Threads #activitypub #atproto
Microblogging social media before:
Microblogging social media today:
- Threads
- Bluesky
- Mastodon
- Nostr
The SOCIAL WEB in the future (I want to believe):
- It doesn't matter, they all connect to each other, use whatever service you prefer.
#Fediverse #SocialWeb #SocialMedia #ActivityPub #Bluesky #Nostr #Mastodon #Threads
So, when #Bluesky get's its first big problem and subsequent exodus, will #Mastodon be ready and have #StarterPacks by then? Because, they are really a gamechanger in #onboarding and when migrating en masse.
#SocialMedia #MastodonMigration #TwitterMigration #Threads #Fediverse
#Threads のタイムラインにもうすぐ広告が挟まってくるとのこと
"Meta Platforms plans to introduce advertisements to its text app, Threads, early next year, hoping to cash in on the app’s rapid growth, according to three people with direct knowledge of the company’s plans."
https://9to5mac.com/2024/11/13/threads-is-bringing-ads-to-your-feeds-very-soon/
@[email protected] · Reply to Tom Casavant's post
In fairness, they are still somewhat involved. Here's that same dev discussing bridging Threads to Bluesky over BridgyFed and handling the custom AT handles
If you leave X or Twitter (or however you choose to refer to it), what should you do with your account? Is it enough to simply delete it? @Gizmodo has tips. #X #Twitter #Bluesky #Mastodon #Threads #SocialMedia #Tech #Technology #ElonMusk https://flip.it/GrBbNC
#Mastodon から #Threads アカウントのアドレスを検索してもアカウントが検索結果の候補に出てこないけど \@[email protected] とかユーザー ID 形式で検索するとでてきたりするの is 何
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
まあ #Threads が #Fediverse 完全対応したら、 #Threads でいいんじゃない?という気持ちはある。
#BigTech とか #Meta イヤ!みたいな意見はとくに #Fediverse #mastodon に長くいる人とかにはあるのかもしれないし、そういう考え方もわからなくはないけど。
「まあ、細かいことはいいから、とりあえず #Fediverse おいでよ 」みたいな気持ちのほうが勝っている
@[email protected] · Reply to Martin Holland's post
Here's a good question and I have the answer: #Traffic per Follower for different social networks (here for the last 4 weeks).
#Mastodon is now behind #Bluesky, #Flipboard still far ahead. #X and #Threads are really far behind.
#SocialMedia
#TwitterExodus
#ElonMusk
#Fediverse
#MastodonMigration
@[email protected] · Reply to Martin Holland's post
The chart showing the #engagement with @heiseonline shows a slow decline in Boosts, Favs and Replies. Thanks @analytodon for the data!
Any idea, what I should look out for in the data we have?
(🧵 3/3)
#SocialMedia
#TwitterExodus
#ElonMusk
#Fediverse
#Bluesky
#Threads
#MastodonMigration
@[email protected] · Reply to Martin Holland's post
If you add all the #TwitterAlternative s, they have been in the lead for a while now.
If you add @Flipboard and sum it up wit #Mastodon (because #Fediverse 😉), then #Facebook ist not far.
But, if you have a look on the numbers since the beginning of 2022, then it's clear, that this is mainly a story about the decline of #Twitter.
(🧵 2/3)
#SocialMedia
#TwitterExodus
#ElonMusk
#Bluesky
#Threads
#MastodonMigration
@[email protected] · Reply to Martin Holland's post
The week is over, here are some charts:
For two weeks in a row, #Mastodon brought more #traffic than #X / #Twitter to heise.de.
But I forgot, that's not just via @heiseonline, but also @heisec, @ct_Magazin, @heiseautos, @iX_Magazin etc. (but for Twitter its the same).
#Bluesky is way behind, #Threads even more. Only Twitter is clearly falling.
(🧵 1/3)
#SocialMedia
#TwitterExodus
#TwitterMigration
#MastodonMigration
#Fediverse
Maybe pissing in the wind here, but I want to at least let other #Threads users know that they don’t actually have true fediverse functionality, and who knows if/when they will. https://www.threads.net/@ricmac/post/DCMOHN1NVYo
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
個人的には、#X からはみんな離れたほうがいいくらいに思ってるからなー
別に #Mastodin #Fediverse じゃなくても、 #Instagram でも #Threads でも #Bluesky でもいいんだけど。
#X は、やっぱり牧歌的な過去の SNS の雰囲気を経験してきた身としては、もう「ああいう場所にユーザーとして貢献したくない」くらいの場所になってる。
まあ自分が変えられるのは自分の行動くらいなので、#X にいる人に直接とやかく言うつもりもないのだが。
@[email protected] · Reply to Joshua Byrd's post
@phocks this would be a good time for #Mastodon instances and the rest of the #Fediverse to reconsider their ill-advised #defederation with #Threads
So... About that debate we had months ago regarding #Threads, #fediverse and federation...
A very interesting podcast, IMHO. Have a listen and share with people for them to join us here.
https://vivaldi.com/blog/better-web/evan-prodromou-social-web-foundation-for-a-better-web/
#Vivaldi #fediverse #Mastodon #Twitter #X #Facebook #Threads
If you have tried Threads before —
What do you think of the Threads mobile app user-interface (UI)?
(Reply with your thoughts.)
はやく #Threads 完全に #Fediverse ⁂ 対応してくれないかなぁ
After a good question another chart:
This one shows the #traffic to heise.de via #X/#Twitter (as a whole), (only!!) our account @heiseonline on #Mastodon (so also from the #Fediverse), our account on #Bluesky and #Threads (as a whole again) – weekly since the beginning of 2022..
"The thing with building in a decentralised space is that it's constantly changing. That can be hard to keep up with but, personally, I love it.
Instead of one omnipotent platform, multiple projects build, launch, grow, fail, side-by-side. It's kind of romantic."
Looking back at a year of Newsmast and decentralised social media
https://forbetter.ghost.io/hope-the-power-of-a-year/
#SocialMedia #Decentralised #Open #Fediverse #Mastodon #Blog #X #Threads #Bluesky #SocialWeb
@[email protected] · Reply to Pavel's post
Jenže. Na Mastodon chodí furt těch stejných 20 lidí.
A to mě taky vnitřně moc nebaví, protože si pak chodíš poplkat o tom, jak Sparta je super a jak Zátopek zaběhl na Olympiádě.
Všechno 50x dokola a trošičku se tu profiluje bublina lidí, co sdílí stejné názory, volí stejné strany a ještě k tomu používají linux.
Takže, #threads určitě opouštím a jdu si zkusit #bluesky
Prej je to druhá nejlepší síť po krájeným chlebu🧵 ⏬
@[email protected] · Reply to Pavel's post
A najednou mě přestalo bavit na #threads chodit a psát.
Nemá smysl si totiž s lidmi o čemkoliv povídat, protože je dost možné, že daný názor zastávají jenom kvůli komentářům.
Nemá smysl někoho litovat, protože to možná napsal jenom kvůli lajkům.
A u psaní příspěvků mám nějakou vnitřní brzdu: Bude to mít dosahy? Komentáře? Lajky?
Nesmysle na internety píšu, protože mě to vnitřně baví. Samozřejmě mě baví i reakce od čtenářů... Ale co je moc, to je moc. 🧵 ⏬
@[email protected] · Reply to Pavel's post
Odborně se tomu říká "engagement bait".
Lidi na #threads píšou, aby dostali lajky, shlédnutí a dosahy. A hodně rychle zjistili, že toho dosáhnou nejlépe tím, že se pokusí nasrat co největší okolí kolem sebe.
Když tě totiž nasere post typu "Zeman byl nejlepší prezident ČR" tak vlezeš do komentářů a dáš nasraný komentář.
A já mám dosahy. Heč!
Heč?
Jo, zjistil jsem, že mi to vadí úplně stejně, jako ten alkoholový nával do hlavy po prvním pivu. Levnej dopamin je svině...
🧵 ⏬
@[email protected] · Reply to Pavel's post
No a pak jsem se kouknul zase na #threads Podobnost s pivem čistě náhodná?
I už trošku "naučená" algoritmická tajmlajna je furt plná dopaminových feťáků. Takže tvoje normální návštěva vypadá jako procházka Sherwoodem před hlavním nádražím v Praze.
"Ananas patří na pizzu, kámo. Dej lajk, jestli souhlasíš!"
"Jsou jenom dvě pohlaví. Fakt kámo! Nemáš u sebe reblog?"
"Mám poslední dvě koruny v kapse. Zmáčkni srdíčko. Jenom jednou, Prosííím!"
🧵 ⏬
@[email protected] · Reply to Pavel's post
Když totiž nálada nejen díky kimchi vystoupila na vrchol, tak jsem po asi dvou letech absolutního nepití dostal upřímnou chuť na pivo.
Navíc v hospodě čepovali taky osmičku, takže mi to připadlo jako bezpečný pivo, který bych si tak nějak vyzkoušel.
Ten nával alkoholu do hlavy? Ten absolutní a okamžitý pocit alkoholu v hlavě? Zjistil jsem, že mi to vlastně vadí. A celkem mi to přišlo líto.
Protože přesně kvůli tomuto pocitu to pivo a alkohol pil. A teď? Teď mi to už jen vadí #threads 🧵 ⏬
Mastopivo, Threads a tak vůbec. Asi dlouhé vlákno. Začíná tady, byl jsi varován. #threads
Na Mastopivu se stalo spoustu zajímavých věcí. Nakonec jsem se rozhodl trochu víc se rozepsat o dvou, co se tak trochu doplňují.
Nejenom že si @danielsnor objednal kimchi na ochutnávku, ale také se mě zeptal, proč jsem vlastně na Threads.
Na pivu jsem mu odpověděl stupidním bullshitem. Ale od té doby nad tím přemýšlím...🧵 ⏬
Another week, another increase for @heiseonline
#Mastodon keeps growing (the last time, we got this much #traffic, was at the beginning of the year), #Bluesky, too. No big jumps, but we'll see, where it leads.
#Threads still brings very little, #Twitter stays weak.
As always, this is the traffic to heise.de via the different social media platforms.
Edit: In the graph, Mastodon, Bluesky and Threads are stacked together (as they are they biggest Twitter-alternatives).
2nd Edit: Graph added.
Twitter’s decline has sparked interest in alternatives like #Bluesky, #Threads, and #Mastodon. In my latest video, I dive into what these platforms offer and how they stack up after a year away from Twitter. Watch here: https://youtu.be/lKnMtZTI_9E?si=C4-UaBI1IQBM7VG6 #Youtube #Fediverse #opensource
Noterade nyss att jag kan följa (åtminstone en del) konton på Threads.net – men visst är det så att det inte går att interagera med dem?
Så om @barackobama mot förmodan skulle vilja svara mig, så går inte det nu eftersom han inte ens ser min tagg? #Threads #Mastodon #bridgesofmastodon
Threads proposes to opt out from Fediverse sharing every 30 days (in addition to a one-sided, pessimized implementation of Fediverse features).
Damn I probably have about 2-3 more hours of editing for this video talking about #Bluesky #Mastodon and #Threads! This whole video is gonna be close to an hour and I will have it on #YouTube. So if you haven’t already please subscribe https://youtube.com/@chiefgyk3d?si=isOiodpMm8i8fHLM
#Linux #Infosec #Cybersecurity
excited for the next Threads fediverse update (seeing the initials of the first 3 people who liked your post)
#MASTODON vs #THREADS Engagement Experiment
Followers:
Mastodon 1,031
Threads 26,800
3 posts at the same time on each.
Mastodon: 62 Hearts 24 Reblogs 4 Replies
Threads: 2 Hearts
26x followers! Bupkis.
Follower counts & the active users on a platform **DO. NOT. MATTER.** if the #algorithm doesn't bless your posts.
Let your creative friends know, Threads (and #Twitter / X of course) are not the solution.
The most recent #update for #Mastodon has reached three fourth of the followers from @heiseonline, patching the #preview-bug for them. So we should see most of the traffic coming from here again. Yet, the number of visits from the #Fediverse to heise.de hasn't really grown that much.
At least, the three #Twitter-alternatives are again bigger than #X, which keeps declining.
In sum, the four networks deliver half as much traffic than #Twitter alone in the beginning of 2022.
Das jüngste Update von #Mastodon hat etwa drei Viertel der Follower von @heiseonline erreicht und damit auch der Patch für den #Preview-Bug. Wir sollten also wieder so ziemlich alle Klicks sehen, die aus dem #Fediverse zu heise.de führen.
Aber so richtig zugenommen hat die Zahl der Zugriffe trotzdem nicht wirklich.
Wenigstens lagen die #Twitter-Alternativen in Summe vergangene Woche wieder mal vorn (was sie immer öfter tun). Das liegt auch am Sinkflug von #X.
Wonder how custom emojis made on Fedi appear on Threads! 🤔
They haven't turned Fediverse sharing on. Another small confirmation of zero intentions to make BlueSky open platform
I'm seeing claims that the algorithm on #bluesky is better than the one on #threads. is there a default algo run by BS on there? I've heard you can choose to use one and customize it, but is there one turned on automatically for all new users? we know most won't make that extra effort to change that or even care much about who and how people are trying to manipulate them. Algos are powerful in that they let others control your attention. Bad for democracy. Their presence is tempting to assholes.
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
自分の #Threads タイムラインに、こういう系の話題が流れてくるんだけど、なんかちょっとこう、テキストで書き残すには主語が大きすぎる感じの話が多いなーと思ってしまう。とはいえ自分も何か書けば他人にそう感じさせる文章になる(というかすでになってる)だろうなーとおもうのと、そういうことをそういえば #Twitter 時代に結構書いてたなーと、なんかすこし懐かしい気持ちになった。
「プロなら〇〇使えて当たり前」とか「Web デザイナーはコーディング出来るべきか否か」とか。
個人的にもその話題は嫌いじゃないんだけど、結局これって、主体者のタイプとか環境とかによって答えが変わるから、個人の主観の話にしかならないんだよな〜。
でもそういう n=1 の話をもっとたくさん聞きたいという気持ちも一方ではあるし、だったら個人の主観でみんなが書けばいいじゃん、なんだけど、テキストでそれを書こうとすると主語が大きく見えすぎてしまって「そんなケースもあるのか〜」じゃなく「そんなことはない!間違ってる!」っていうコミュニケーションを生み出しがちなテキストベースソーシャルメディアあるある
Apparently I have run out of slots for pinned posts! So here is a pinned post linking to all the posts I want to pin:
📌Desert island songs: https://mastodon.online/@tiamat271/110280072160212584
📌Desert island shows/series: https://mastodon.online/@tiamat271/111791778328300968
📌Invitation to the Study Group for #CommunityTV fans: https://mastodon.online/@tiamat271/109621255938864190
📌#COVID researchers, resources, and accounts: https://mastodon.online/@tiamat271/109615477090871381
📌#Threads accounts for following: https://mastodon.online/@tiamat271/112248099175715400
📌Favorite scream-songs for relieving tension: https://mastodon.online/@tiamat271/112594776476889325
Probably the worst article about the #fediverse and #Threads I have ever read comes from @euronews:
It claims that Europeans could not fully access the fediverse because #Meta rolled out Threads federation more slowly there.
Borderline misinformation.
Dexit-/Bexit-/Nexit-/whatsoeverexit-debate in 3, 2, 1,...
#Threads #Fediverse
https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/06/27/what-is-the-fediverse-and-why-cant-we-fully-access-it-in-europe
#Threads will start showing others when you’re online by default
https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/15/threads-will-start-showing-others-when-youre-online-by-default/
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
#X とか #Threads とか #BlueSky がどうなるとかもうよくわからんけど、いきなり #Mastodon とか #Fediverse に人が流れる必要もないなとも思う
@[email protected] · Reply to Taylor Lorenz's post
Please don’t link to #Threads. Drop their #fediverse link by all means, just don’t make people put #Meta websites in their browser.
#SocialMedia のモデレーション、最近はほとんどがユーザーのためというより、サービス側の都合が色濃く反映されてるケースが多い気がする。
発言するユーザーの母数を多くして、その中からスパムとかノイズを排除してユーザーがより興味のあるものを優先して見せる、というやり方は、実現すればサービスの強みになるし実現させたいのはわかるけど、仕組みがハックされやすいし、最近あんまりうまく機能してない印象。
#Threads はそもそものノイズのフィルタリングに苦労してるみたいだし、#X なんかはもう金を餌にノイズを集めてるカオスな感じだし。
だったらもう #Mastodon みたいに、インスタンスごとにクラスタの属性をはっきりさせて、そこから適度に分断したまま、同じインスタンスにいるユーザーとかフォローしあってるユーザーとのつながりを軸にゆるく他のインスタンスと連合している状態で時系列で流れるタイムラインを眺めていたほうがよっぽど平和だと感じる
スパムアカウントをみんなで報告・ブロック・ミュートするのが #Mastodon #Fediverse
スパムアカウントじゃないのに何故か BAN されちゃうのが #Threads 🧵
スパムアカウントと共にインプレッションと金を奪い合うのが #X ✖️
ということか…
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#Threads と #Instagram がBAN祭り状態、モデレーションの暴走が制御不能に - GIGAZINE
https://gigazine.net/news/20241010-instagram-threads-moderation-deleted/
lol, oh look, a load of stuff that doesn't happen on Mastodon...
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
朝見かけた記事はちゃんと読んでみたら、モデレーションがおかしいというのは、投稿の治安が悪いとかそういうことじゃなくて、アカウントが間違って BAN されてしまうみたいな事例についての話だった。
なんか #Threads のタイムラインがカオス、みたいな話が近い人から最近複数聞いたので、そういう話かとタイトルで勘違いしていた
#Threads のタイムラインがいろいろ荒れていて #Meta がハンドリングに苦しんでるみたいなニュースを見たので久しぶりに #Threads の自分のタイムラインを眺めてみてるけど、とくに変に悪化した印象はなかった。アカウントによるのかな。
#Fediverse #Mastodon みたいに時系列・自分が明示的にフォローした人だけ見える Following タイムラインだけ見てればよいのではという気もする。
おすすめされることに慣れすぎてしまうと、その仕組みに乗っかろうとする変なアカウントとか、ネガティブ感情を煽ってその仕組みをハックしてインプレッション稼ごうという人が出てきちゃうので、自分のタイムラインは自分でお掃除して、自分の心の安定は自分でつくる!守る!という気持ちとアクション(自分にとってよくない情報は積極的に Block & Mute とか)が大事な気がする
#Threads が #Fediverse に完全に対応しちゃえば、自分はおそらく #Fediverse 側からしか #Threads を見ないだろうし、#Threads が For You タイムラインの取り扱いに苦しんでても、じつはあまり自分にはそもそもあまり影響なさそうな気はしている。
ただ、#Threads からは #Fediverse はまだ見えないし、 For You タイムラインがデフォルトで表示されるそこにいると、たしかに居心地はあまりよくないんだろうけど…(つまりは、#Threads もいいけど居心地悪いならみんな #Fediverse においでよということなんだけど
🧐 So, uh…why has the mood changed so suddenly on #Threads? How has Meta dropped the ball at this pivotal moment for the nascent social network?
Meanwhile, other social networks and the #Fediverse as a whole are kicking some serious ass. It’s a real shift in a short amount of time from just earlier in the summer, and I’m here to talk all about it…and how much I just love #Mastodon 4.3 + @TangerineUI 2.0. 😍
🎙️ Listen to Fresh Fusion #Podcast Episode 119:
https://jaredwhite.com/podcast/119/
The #fediverse has been better than other social media options for following info on the #hurricane. Follow hashtags like #HurricaneMilton, #Milton, #Tampa, #Florida, #flwx.
#Threads & #bluesky are pretty useless since they lack good support for search and hashtags. #Twitter & #Facebook are full of misinformation, even about the hurricane.
Some sites:
* https://spaghettimodels.com/
* https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
* https://www.floridadisaster.org/disaster-updates/Hurricanemilton/
Wer auch anderweitig mit mir Kontakt halten will ... Ihr findet mich auch bei #Threads und #Bluesky .
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@sorcerer86
Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/oaad.de
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
#Threads にもここでの行動をすこし横流ししようかと思うけど、 もうすぐ #Fediverse に対応するというのが逆になやましいな。
まあいいか
@[email protected] · Reply to Adam Mosseri's post
@mosseri Throttling sharing to #Fediverse means that #Threads users will be prevented from meaningfully participating in realtime discussions on the Fediverse. Oh wait, they can't anyway. Nevermind.
Det var på tide å freshe opp min #AndroidHome #homescreen
Bakgrunnsbildet fant jeg på #Threads av alle steder fra en konto som kun deler kule bakgrunner.
Resten er Niagara Launcher Pro og Minimalistic Text Widget og en font lastet ned fra Google Fonts.
Hey @jay.bsky.team, can you please encourage #bluesky users to enable the #ActivityPub #ATproto #bridgyfed connection in the same way that #threads does with federation? maybe also add some notification on user accounts to show that they have enabled it? please and thank you. #SocialWeb
cc @snarfed.org
@[email protected] · Reply to xyhhx :PunkFelix:'s post
@xyhhx We need to call major instance admins like @Gargron and @jerry on this!
Non-threads fedi is slowly deflating so the overall effects of federating with #threads are:
i quickly checked and the info here is accurate, it seems. another reason to defederate from threads and #fediblock those who do
@[email protected] · Reply to 🦢 Lalah Lover 🦢's post
any other reaction than running at a full sprint from a rabid animal means death
if my analogy seems a little dramatic: #meta #threads fully intends the death of #mastodon #fediverse
if again, that seems a little paranoid and hysterical: everyone needs an appreciation of what meta is, what it is driven by, and what it does. as fully evident
Funny thing is #Meta can't stop being a cartoon villain character long enough for the #socialweb guys to defend themselves.
They're like, "#Threads isn't so bad you guys, they actually--" BREAKING NEWS ZUCKERBERG CAUGHT FUELING AI SUPER COMPUTER WITH BABY ORANGUTANS
Curious to know the thinking/decision process behind showing the text "from 50 servers" 🤔
It does give the impression that many people are connecting from multiple servers, further educating folks about the Social Web. But do people need to be aware of them?
#Mastodon なんかは時間制限なくあとから編集できて、かつ編集履歴も残るけど、 #Fediverse ⁂ というか #ActivityPub で繋がる他サーバーにおける自分の投稿の編集操作の同期は他サーバー側の挙動に依存するんだっけ?(なんかそんな情報を昔見た気もする。幻かもしれない)
#Threads はいまのところ、投稿の編集が可能な間は #Fediverse へは投稿を発信せず、投稿の編集ができなくなって内容が確定したタイミングで #fediverse に共有されるようになってるのかな
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
ちなみに自分の #Threads のタイムラインはそこまでひどい印象はなくて、ちゃんと好みの情報とかアカウントにフォローとか Like とかリアクションして、また不要な物とかをミュートとかすれば、それなりに自分の心地よさは確保できそうな印象ではある(あんまり頻繁には見てないけど)
ソーシャルメディアでも心を守る自衛が必要になったんだなという時代を感じる…
Ugh. Threads keeps adding Fediverse features that are only benefitting themselves.
They can now see our usernames if we follow them and if we like their posts.
Still can't mention us or follow us back...which is the main part that's keeping their integration from being functional.🤦♂️😩
I just want open communication across platforms dammit. It's not that hard. It doesn't take a whole year. One man did it for a platform that he doesn't even work for, in just a few months!
Registrerte meg på #Threads ikveld, fulgte alle mine gamle Instagram-venner som er på #Threads (39 stk) og la ut et par innlegg, men altså.
- Feeden er automatisk full av folk jeg på ingen måte følger eller har tenkt å følge.
- Man kan kun bruke en emneknagg per innlegg.
- Jeg kan ikke federere brukeren min.
Dette er jo bare Instagram i litt ny forpakning... at folk gidder.
I wonder if #Meta will make this data publicly available for all users (as in I can see the same information on other accounts)‽
It would help determine how many #Threads accounts are on the #Fediverse.
👉🏾 Threads users can now see who follows them from other fediverse servers https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/01/threads-users-can-now-see-who-follows-them-from-other-fediverse-servers/ 🔛 @TechCrunch
I've seen lots of takes regarding threads.net starting federating and what that might imply for the #Fediverse lately (I'll link a few at the end of this thread).
I'd like to discuss and address some of the points that have been raised over and over in one single place:
1. for #Facebook/#Meta this is not really about us fedizens
2. thou shall not gatekeep!
3. block those who don't block (please don't)
4. they can already get our data (not legally, no)
1/N
I forgot that Threads developed its own tagging system outside of more common hashtags used elsewhere.
I remember the back and forth about it when they rolled it out, and personally not being that bothered by it.
Most of the time, tags are used within a sentence so it isn't noticeable. However when added to the end of a post like this example and pushed to the Fediverse, the result can seem confusing.
Brillante Historie gezielter kapitalistischer Angriffe auf #OpenSource und #dezentraleSozialeNetze:
https://cohost.org/Janet/post/1952079-ok-nun-auch-auf-deu
#Google tötete #XMPP.
#Microsoft tötete #Kerberos.
#Meta #Facebook #Threads attackiert nun #Mastodon #Fediverse.
Wie verhindert man das? So vorbildlich wie @kev das tat, als er wegen #Instagram kontaktiert wurde und mit den Worten absagte:
"Euer Antrieb sollte sein Menschen zu verbinden, nicht ihre Privatsphäre gewinnbringend zu verkaufen!"
https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836
@[email protected] · Reply to Fediverse Report's post
@fediversereport the Brazilian government could follow this example instead of empty words about digital sovereignty.
P. S. Its account on Threads is still closed for platforms compatible with Activity Pub.
In Portuguese:
https://social.vivaldi.net/@everton137/113209148435479958
#Brazil #digitalsovereignty #Threads #fediverse #Lula #Mastodon #ActivityPub
#SocialMedia #Twitter #Musk #Threads #Mastodon #BlueSky #EchoChamber: "Data from Similarweb shows active daily users in the UK have dropped from 8mn a year ago to only around 5.6mn now, with more than a third of that fall coming since the summer riots. The same thing is happening elsewhere, and not just in places where the platform has been banned, such as Brazil. Over the same 16-month period, X’s active users in the US have fallen by about a fifth.
As disillusioned X users become, yes, ex-X-users, they are finding their way on to alternative sites. With Mastodon having proved off-puttingly techy for many, that tends to either be Meta’s Threads app, or Bluesky, the platform that Twitter founder Jack Dorsey helped to start. But while the former is winning in terms of absolute numbers — about 1.4mn daily active users of Threads in the UK, compared with just over 100,000 for Bluesky — it is the latter that has grown the most rapidly over the past six weeks, and that is cementing itself as the top choice for media types, policy wonks, academics and the broader chatterati.
That there is a new place for such people to congregate is all well and good, but the problem is that the chatterati — very nice and non-conspiracy-theorising and non-overtly-racist though they may be — tend to coalesce around some quite similar viewpoints, which makes for a rather echoey chamber."
https://www.ft.com/content/65961fec-a5ab-4c71-b1c8-265be3583a93
@[email protected] · Reply to Stefan Bohacek's post
CEO of Meta, which recently joined the newly founded #SocialWebFoundation, thinks that "individual creators or publishers tend to overestimate the value of their specific content".
https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/25/24254042/mark-zuckerberg-creators-value-ai-meta
#news #TechNews #SocialMedia #meta #facebook #threads #zuckerberg #AI
There's something I've been wanting to talk about for awhile.
Quote posts, limiting of quote posts, and how those features might be added to core AP.
As it is now, the way Threads does quote posting is when a person adds a link to another Threads post, it automatically turns into a "quote post".
They also have the option to limit posts from being quoted, which in turn completely stops anyone on Threads linking to that post.
To me, that is wild, but I can see it making sense on a closed platform.
However, given the way Fediverse works and a ton of people have their own instance/website, I think it would be absolutely asinine to attempt to stop someone from simply posting a link to another post.
Links have been part of the internet for awhile now and there's no other platform that stops people from using links, AFAIK.
So, to those working on AP, please consider another route for quote posts because if I cannot link to something on my own website, I'll be pretty livid honestly.
Do you use Flipboard to stay up on the latest news in tech? If so, your experience just got better. Now you can follow people on Threads and Mastodon, like Marques Brownlee, Mark Cuban, David Imel, Kara Swisher, and Taylor Lorenz, right from your Flipboard, and get their latest social posts on all things tech.
Learn more about these new features in this blogpost. And if there's a cool account you'd like us to highlight, let us know in the comments below.
https://about.flipboard.com/fediverse/fediverse-tech-voices-on-flipboard/
#Mastodon #MastodonMigration #Federation #Fediverse #Threads #Flipboard
So... Has anyone on here actually talked with the people from the #SocialWebFoundation?
I can tell the #Mastodon Organization has, but #Threads is also listed there, while I don't see any other names that aren't some corporate entity. I'm all for groups that want to expand the #Fediverse, even for-profit ones, but it's a red flag when an organization that purports to be for a general movement doesn't have an open line of communication with rank-and-file server-runners and volunteers...
Edit:
I just realized that it was founded by @evan who is actually very active in mainstream Fedi, and one of the maintainers of the actual protocol. While that doesn't elaborate on actual intentions, it is good to know that at least it's someone who is directly involved, and not some random corporation. #EvanProdromou
I'm curious on thoughts. Since #Mastodon grew a bunch when #Twitter effectively died, then #Threads came along from #Meta, which platform do you prefer and use more? I'm also curious on the why too.
Option | Voters |
---|---|
Threads | 0 (0%) |
Mastodon | 0 (0%) |
This in-depth interview with Mark Zuckerberg is fascinating. And awful.
He thinks AR glasses will — maybe not _replace_ your phone — but be a new interface for your phone, through which you see and interact with the world.
Meta is having another shot at AR glasses.
They've learned nothing from previous failures. They are doing a rerun of Apple's AR glasses failure.
The article is co-written by Nilay Patel who acknowledged Apple's AR glasses are a technological marvel, but showed they're a steaming pile of shit simply by trying to use them an asking what they're for.
I think Mark Zuckerberg accepts that people should be paid for their work, but he says that doesn't apply to work he doesn't value. And, on that basis, he thinks it's okay for Meta and AI companies to steal everyone's work and scrape everything they can from the internet. It's just that he doesn't see the value of other people's work. This a moral failing of techbro capitalism.
Mark Zuckerberg's talk of the Facebook feed is illustrative of where his vision of AI is headed.
First, the feed was based on what people chose to see in their feed.
Then, he said the Algorithm knew better than people thought they knew about their own preferences, and that justified cluttering your feed with algorithmic garbage.
Now, he says the AI knows better than people think they know about their own preferences, and that justifies cluttering your feed with AI garbage.
Extrapolating from Facebook to other Meta products and the Internet in general, Mark Zuckerberg thinks Meta knows better than you about what you need to see.
#Facebook #Meta #Threads #Apple #AR #VR #AI #TechBros #MarkZuckerberg
CEO of Meta, which recently joined the newly founded #SocialWebFoundation, suggests that there is "no causal connection" between social media and teen mental health.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/25/24254044/mark-zuckerberg-meta-social-media-teen-mental-health
#news #TechNews #SocialMedia #MentalHealth #meta #facebook #threads #zuckerberg
It seems people are growing tired of engagement baits and algorithms on Threads. Wtf, come here then?
Kinda weird seeing some people on Threads say "I'm sharing to the Fediverse!" but they're totally not...😳
That's the major issue with Threads implementation.
People just assume posting there by default is "on the Fediverse".
🤦♂️
Hey, GenX Brits. Do you want to relive the existential terrors of your youth? Of course you do!
It is, astonishingly, 40 years since Threads exploded onto British TVs and this Saturday Radio 4 is devoting an hour to discussing the film and its impact.
I wish there was an easy way to browse threads Fediverse content.
I'm sure there's many accounts that have federated that I'd enjoy, but I don't know they're federated or even know that they exist.
Same for bluesky.
I could go there, but there's no way to tell who's federated.😩
It’s going to be strange when Threads has full on integration with the Fediverse
@[email protected] · Reply to fedipact.online's post
this is why many people who're so adamantly against federating with threads are so goddamn ANGRY
we're so fucking tired tired of having our safe spaces -- our refuges against queerphobia -- ripped away from us
queer people, outcasts, weirdos, etc. -- we built this fucking network. we laid the groundwork for its very existence and now you're trying to tell us we don't matter, that we should just give it all up in the face of some evil megacorp. well fuck that
we're not going down without a fight
you have NO IDEA how full of queer neurodivergent leftist furries this place was before y'all showed up. no goddamn clue. that was this place's shtick for the longest time
#Threads で見つけた良さげな投稿からそのアカウントへ移動してみたら :fediverse: #Fediverse 連携してなかったときの顔
このニュースに #Threads が含まれていないんだな。#Meta 内での #Threads の社内ベンチャーみを改めて感じる。
https://gigazine.net/news/20240912-meta-ai-facebook-scraping/
#Threads の :fediverse: #Fediverse #⁂ 連携じわじわ広がってる気がする。年内には完全対応何だっけ?いずれにしても #Fediverse 周りの大きなニュースが控えているのは良いことだな :tony_smiling:
Threads' @pcottle confirmed at #FediForum that it is still working towards allowing #Threads users to follow e.g. Mastodon users. This is a must-have for me (and I'm sure many of you), as I really want to use Mastodon as my primary social media app.
They actually did it....you can now include a link in a Threads post that directly brings up the fediverse sharing option. Making it just a bit easier to get people to participate. 🎉
https://www.threads.net/@box464/post/C-RmKpSNpQH?xmt=AQGzpoJrR1ZbcyZMFbz4PVGq5nQyV-fMghWYMO0tswAkyw
Are there any decent, smaller, #Queer-friendly #Mastodon instances that don't block #Threads?
https://lemmy.ml/post/20154659
submitted by eddeeMN to fediverse1 points | 0 commentsAre there any decent, smaller, #Queer-friendly #Mastodon instances that don’t block #Threads?
@[email protected] @Mastodon #socialNetwork #fediverse @[email protected] #lgbtq
@[email protected] · Reply to "You do you" is Eu-gen-ics.'s post
@beadsland A friend sent this:
From Mastodon (and Fediverse generally I presume?), one *can* follow someone at their Threads account, but only if they have activated mirroring on their Threads profile. (And the feature is enabled where they live.)
If they do that, then it will work to paste their [email protected] into the "Search or paste URL" box in the Mastodon web interface.
Here is the Threads documentation: https://help.instagram.com/760878905943039/ #feditips #threads #lazyweb
Since almost one year now, a bug in #Mastodon is hiding many visits to @heiseonline originating from here. In addition, #Bluesky and #Threads are almost as long usable here, as additional alternatives to #Twitter.
Time for a look at the data. 👇
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Strategies for the free fediverses
https://privacy.thenexus.today/strategies-for-the-free-fediverses/
EDIT (March 19): I updated the definition of "Meta's fediverses", and added to the list of strategies
The fediverse is evolving into different regions
""Meta's fediverses", including Threads, instances using services from Meta such as automated moderation or ad targeting, and instances harvesting data on Meta's behalf
"free fediverses" that reject Meta – and surveillance capitalism more generally
as well as many instances that don't fall into either of these categories.
The free fediverses have a lot of advantages over Meta and Meta's fediverses, some of which will be very hard to counter, and clearly have enough critical mass that they'll be just fine.
Here's a set of strategies for the free fediverses to provide a viable alternative to surveillance capitalism. They build on the strengths of today's fediverse at its best – including natural advantages the free fediverses have that Threads and Meta's fediverses will having a very hard time countering – but also are hopefully candid about weaknesses that need to be addressed. It's a long list, so I'll be spreading out over multiple posts; this post currently goes into detail on the first two.
Opposition to Meta and surveillance capitalism is an appealing position. Highlight it!
Focus on consent (including consent-based federation), privacy, and safety
Emphasize "networked communities"
Support concentric federations of instances and communities
Make it easier to move between (and create) instances
Work together with people and instances in Meta's fediverses and on Bluesky whose goals and values align with the free fediverses
Consider "transitive defederation" from instances that federate with Meta
Reduce the dependency on Mastodon
Start moving beyond ActivityPub
Build a sustainable ecosystem
Prepare for Meta's (and their allies') attempts to paint the free fediverses in a bad light
Prioritize accessibility, which is a huge opportunity
Commit to anti-fascist, anti-racist, anti-colonial, and pro-LGBTQIA2S+ principles, policies, practices, and norms for the free fediverses
Organize!
Consider "transitively defederating" Meta's fediverses (as well as defederating Threads)
Consider working with people and instances in Meta's fediverses (and Bluesky, Dreamwidth, and other social networks) whose goals and values align with the free fediverses'
Build a sustainable ecosystem
Prepare for Meta's (and their allies') attempts to paint the free fediverses in a bad light
Reduce the dependency on Mastodon
Prioritize accessibility, which is a huge opportunity
Commit to anti-fascist, anti-racist, anti-colonial, and pro-LGBTQIA2S+ principles, policies, practices, and norms for the free fediverses
Organize!
#fediverse #freefediverse #threads @fediverse @fediversenews
HolloについにMisskey/Threads風の引用機能が追加されました!使い方は簡単です。引用する投稿のリンクを投稿内容に貼り付けてください!ActivityPubの投稿(Article、Note、そしてQuestionに対応)のリンクを自動で認識して引用に変えてくれます。
ちなみに、Phanpyを使う場合は、ブーストアイコンを押すと出てくるQuoteボタンを使ってください。
#Hollo #Misskey #Threads #引用
QT: https://hollo.social/@hollo/0191d68a-3ba7-7f2f-9836-fe8664fb51b0 [参照]
#Hollo finally has #Misskey/#Threads-style quotes! It's easy to use. Just paste the link to the post you want to quote into your post! It will automatically recognize a link to an ActivityPub post (supports Article
, Note
, and Question
) and turn it into a quote.
FYI, if you're using #Phanpy, you can use the Quote button that appears when you press the boost icon!
https://hollo.social/@fedify/0191d67c-a300-786e-8395-2020ac47ebc7
#Hollo finally has #Misskey/#Threads-style quotes! It's easy to use. Just paste the link to the post you want to quote into your post! It will automatically recognize a link to an ActivityPub post (supports Article
, Note
, and Question
) and turn it into a quote.
FYI, if you're using #Phanpy, you can use the Quote button that appears when you press the boost icon!
https://hollo.social/@fedify/0191d67c-a300-786e-8395-2020ac47ebc7
Bluesky grows to 9M+ users
In other words, the social platform’s user base has grown by around 50 percent in the week or so since a Brazilian court banned X (formerly Twitter).
The ban sent Bluesky to the top of the free iPhone app charts in Brazil, where it’s currently ranked number two, behind Meta’s competing app Threads.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/07/bluesky-grows-to-9m-users/
Metan omistama Threads maksaa suosituista julkaisuista influenssereille riihikuivaa rahaa
Ongelmaksi muodostuu se, että suosittujen julkaisujen ei tarvitse olla totta, vaan hieman kiertämällä ilmaistu, verhottu "salaliittomainen" vihje jostain oudosta napsahtaa hyvinkin helposti viraaliksi... ja tuottaa rahaa.
https://dawn.fi/uutiset/2024/09/07/threads-maksaa-rahaa-suosituista-julkaisuista
So, heute alle Inhalte von #Threads und #X aka #Twitter entfernt und auf #Fediverse hier verwiesen.
Fühlt sich richtig an.
Come Role Play With Us!
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Tags: #MarvelRP #MCU #roleplay #rp #roleplayaccount #rpgroup #OC #art #artist #rpg #fandom #Marvel #writing #writer #mastodon #twitter #sw #reddit #ahsoka #disney #mandalorian #news #fantasy #dungeonsAndDragons #bg3 #adventure #JCINKpremium #forum #threads #CreativeToots
Come Role Play With Us!
https://acrossthestars.jcink.net
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Tags: #MarvelRP #MCU #roleplay #rp #roleplayaccount #rpgroup #OC #art #artist #rpg #fandom #Marvel #writing #writer #mastodon #twitter #sw #reddit #ahsoka #disney #mandalorian #news #fantasy #dungeonsAndDragons #bg3 #adventure #JCINKpremium #forum #threads #CreativeToots
Come Role Play With Us!
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Tags: #MarvelRP #MCU #roleplay #rp #roleplayaccount #rpgroup #OC #art #artist #rpg #fandom #Marvel #writing #writer #mastodon #twitter #sw #reddit #ahsoka #disney #mandalorian #news #fantasy #dungeonsAndDragons #bg3 #adventure #JCINKpremium #forum #threads #CreativeToots #travel #murder #Island
Just gonna leave this here...
#socialMedia #portland #streetArt #qrCode #qr #poster #pdx #portland #fediverse #threads #meta #facebook #twitter #nostr #bluesky
Looks like Bluesky is still #1 and ahead of Threads for free app downloads in Brazil 😃 Threads is at #2
#app #tech #Bluesky #Threads #Meta #SocialMedia #Brazil
https://app.sensortower.com/top-charts?os=ios&device=iphone&country=BR&category=0&date=2024-09-02
JUST IN: You can now spread your Mastodon #threads over time. 🧵🧵🧵
Don't want to spam your timeline with a #thread all at once? We pioneered 'spreadable' threads that post each next post over a period of time, and it boosted our #impressions in the past over 2000%!
#growthhacks #contenttip #socialmediatips #schedulingtips #growthhack
ブラジルのX(旧 Twitter)停止で #Bluesky が同国のApp Storeで首位に #Threads は2位 - ITmedia NEWS
https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/2409/01/news059.html
Benvindos ao #Mastodon #Fediverse, #Brasileiros. 🇧🇷
Parabéns, você chegou ao um lugar MUITO MELHOR.
Dicas:
- Complete seu perfil. Ajuda a encontrar contatos, e ter pedidos de follow aceitos.
- MASTODON NÃO É TWITTER/X, nem tão pouco os usuários querem que seja similar. É muito melhor aqui. Esperar similaridade com #Xitter é guarantir uma experiência ruim.
- AQUI NÃO EXISTE ALGORITMO. Você só verá posts de quem seguir e os que eles fizerem um "boost". Siga profusamente; quanto mais gente você seguir, mais posts você verá.
- "Boosts" e "Likes" NÃO funcionam como em twitter. "Like" não dissemina posts, meramente diz ao usuário que você gostou do post. "Boosts" disseminam posts.
- Mensagens diretas (Direct messages, "DM") NÃO SÃO PRIVADAS.
- Aqui NÃO existem ads, comerciais, ou posts empurrados por algoritmo. Nenhuma corporação é dona, nenhum bilionário controla o que você vê, ou diz.
- Mastodon é parte de Fediverse, mas não é a única plataforma. Recomendo @Pixelfed / @loops como alternative a Instagram.
- Utilizem hashtags, quanto puder. Sempre use iniciais em maiúscula, nos hastags. Facilita em MUITO achar posts. #MaisFácilAssim
- Ajude sua instância. Use imagens e files menores (em byte size), quando possível. Isso reduz custos de hosting/storage Os adminsitradores provavelmente paga do bolso deles, para manter a instância. Curtindo a instância, considere doar um troco. Ajuda, horrores.
- Caso você NÃO esteja satisfeito com a instância que você usa, faça download da sua informação, e mude para outra instância. Eu não particularmente recomendo as maiores instâncias de Mastodon. Procure nichos e instâncias que interessem a você, com temas focados em assuntos preferidos seus.
- SIM, você pode ter mais contas em outras instâncias, ao mesmo tempo.
- Seja polido; as instâncias menores são controladas por comunidades menores, e MUITA atenção é prestada a comportamento de usuários. Divirta-se, respeite os outros usuários.
- SIGA AS REGRAS DE SUA INSTÂNCIA.
- Não, #Threads e #BlueSky NÃO SÃO #Fediverse, estão meramente ligados a este. Existe como interagir, mas é muito limitado, e controlado por corporações que são donas de Threads e BlueSky.
Sigam #FediTips ( https://fedi.tips/ )
Bençãos Beges/ Não Somos Um Culto. - Beige Blessings / We are NOT a Cult.
You want a fast-growing dominant social network owned by a billionaire made to extort you for profit.
I want a thoughtfully-built, community-grown social ecosystem made to connect people.
We are not the same.
Good news #Eurovision bubble: The official Eurovision account finally left X (Twitter) and the platform is no longer listed on the official website and emails. 🥳
Instead, they are now active on Meta's decentralised social network and direct X-competitor #Threads.
Dear developers of the #fediverse, has anyone ever encountered a case where a personal inbox in #Threads responds with a 404 Not Found for a POST request?
Some dude is stating that sharing posts to Fediverse is "horrible" and "dangerous" because it is a breach of your privacy. He's saying this on Meta platform.
"On Wednesday, Meta announced that users on Threads will be able to see fediverse replies on other posts besides their own. In addition, posts that originated through the Threads API, like those created via third-party apps and scheduling services, will now be syndicated to the fediverse."
https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/28/threads-deepens-its-ties-to-the-open-social-web-aka-the-fediverse/
Is there a tool to sync over your follows that have enabled federation from Threads to Mastodon?
@[email protected] · Reply to GENKI's post
Meta's Privacy Guide to the Fediverse
✨ Friendly reminder ✨ #Mastodon is older than:
* The fall of #Twitter.
* The birth of #Bluesky.
* The birth of #Threads.
If you feel like your timeline is empty, that nobody interacts with you, or that this space seems abandoned...
In summary, if you miss the artificiality of The Algorithm©, remember that you are the person in charge here 🤗 And that this is the most beautiful gift a social media platform can offer to anyone.
Mastodon has a lot of active accounts. Therefore, make your experience here more relevant by:
* Following other users.
* Interacting with them.
* Following hashtags (this is how you replace the recommandation algorithms).
* Following bot accounts (some are really great and useful).
This is gonna be fun 😊
Has federating with #Threads changed your Mastodon experience? Asking from a server that blocks it.
i'm so hype in the pipe for this book i got interviewed for to come out eventually!!! the chapter i'm in is all about fedipact and meta and threads.net!!!!!
https://fossacademic.tech/2024/02/11/Move-Slowy-Preview.html
I’ve given up begging NPR, The Onion, and others on Threads to turn on fediverse sharing so we can follow them on Mastodon and beyond. Now resorting to memes and simply replying to people with the following link:
Well folks, after >6y here, its time to move to another instance. #fedipact #meta
I strongly disagree with @Gargron 's decision to suspend moderation standards in exchange for the "opportunity" to connect with a large multinational corporation on their terms. There is nothing neutral about federating with #Threads: It says the ethic of inclusivity should apply first and foremost to large corporations and the wealthy who run them from their bunkers underneath Hawaii. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6_RyE6XZiw
So Threads has now been operational for over a year and it recently crossed the 200M user mark (ref: https://www.threads.net/@mosseri/post/C-I-3ynvHmq). Has there been *any* update on when Mastodon users (and those from other fedi apps) will be able to be followed by Threads users? Because they still are only 1/2 of a fediverse app. Maybe I missed an update, or maybe they're just hoping nobody notices? I honestly have no idea at this point... Anyone have an update? #Fediverse #Threads
"With more and more influential users on platforms which are a part of, or can connect to, the Fediverse we've taken a giant leap towards a better connected social future."
Did the exodus from X / Twitter actually happen in the UK? What does it all mean for the Fediverse?
https://forbetter.ghost.io/the-x-odus-that-was-2/
#LeaveTwitter #LeaveX #X #Twitter #Bluesky #Threads #Mastodon #Fediverse #SocialMedia
Totally!
Here’s one more idea: Governments should ask to self-host Threads.
I.e. @[email protected] on Threads
In the short term, many govs will have an easier time making a commercial arrangement with Meta as opposed to either a bespoke solution or a collab with a tiny fedi upstart.
The govs know Threads can federate, and this sovereignty-requirement would force Threads’ own network to fragment more within itself, thus curtailing some of their network power.
#threads #fediverse
https://macaw.social/@andypiper/112968396411617403
@[email protected] · Reply to dansup's post
Gute Neuigkeiten! Unser Universum hat sich gerade vergrößert — jetzt kannst du Profilen von @Mastodon, @threads und anderen föderierten sozialen Netzwerken auf Flipboard folgen und mit ihnen interagieren.
Lade die Flipboard-App herunter und folge @janboehm, @afelia, @Gargron und mehr. Entdecke Beiträge aus dem Fediverse neben den Inhalten deiner liebsten Publisher.
Hier erfährst du mehr darüber, wie das Ganze funktioniert: https://de-de.about.flipboard.com/flipboard-oeffnet-sich-weiter-jetzt-kannst-du-allen-im-fediverse-folgen/
Und wie immer freuen wir uns über eure Fragen und Feedback!
#Fediverse #Mastodon #Flipboard #SocialMedia #Digital #Tech #Threads #Technologie
@Flipboard
Meta briefly blocked Australians from posting news to Instagram and Threads. The company said it was an “error,” but it seems more like they decided to give people a taste of what will happen if the government says they have to keep paying news publishers.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/12/meta-instagram-threads-users-australian-news/
#tech #news #meta #facebook #instagram #threads #journalism #australia
Good news! Our universe just got bigger — now you can follow and interact with profiles from @Mastodon, @threads and other federated social services on Flipboard.
Download the Flipboard app to follow @georgetakei, @taylorlorenz, @potus and more. See posts from the fediverse alongside content from your favorite publishers.
Read more about how it all works: https://about.flipboard.com/fediverse/follow-anyone-in-the-fediverse/
And as always, we welcome questions and feedback!
#Fediverse #Mastodon #Flipboard #SocialMedia #Tech #Technology #Threads
I wrote some words about #Threads and why I think "blocking big instances might save the #Fediverse".
https://tilde.pt/~epifanio/blog/blocking-huge-instances-might-save-the-fediverse.html
7 hours later and still Threads & Bluesky are trending on X 👀
Sadly no sign on Mastodon, but maybe that's related to rumours of posts referring to Mastodon having limited reach (which I haven't seen proof of).
Really interested to see if there's data somewhere on sign-ups across these platforms covering the last week or so.
Zum Beginn des neuen Jahres haben @zwecki und ich direkt einige Hammer-Themen bei @[email protected] besprochen: Die #Bauernproteste, die Causa #Digitalcourage, das Spannungsfeld #Fediverse und #Threads, unsere Rückschau auf den #37C3 und der Geheimplan gegen Deutschland.
https://podcasts.homes/@rebootpolitics/episodes/masterplan-die-tiere-abzuschaffen
P.S.: Die kommenden Folgen werden wieder kürzer, versprochen!
Threads used their platform to raise awareness for the Fediverse. What does that mean?
https://forbetter.ghost.io/the-fediverse-just-got-some-street-cred-thanks-to-threads/
#SocialMedia #threads #Branding #Awareness #Fediverse #Mastodon #Flipboard
Flipboard CEO @mike will be joining the @threads AMA about the fediverse on Monday, along with Block Party founder Tracy Chou. Get ready to ask away — no question is too basic or complex.
#Fediverse #Federation #Threads #ActivityPub #MikeMcCue #TracyChou #AMA
#facebook disclaimer:
I do not use thefacebook.com and do not have an active account with them. If you know me IRL and someone is using my IRL name, it is not me, but rather one of a dozen other people that share my IRL name (or an impersonator)
Ditto for #Instagram and #Threads
Currently trying out #Friendica for a new issue of my newsletter/blog #TheFutureIsFederated and this GIF speaks louder than words. I’m OBSESSED 😍
I’ve spent an hour adding #Bluesky accounts and #RSS feeds of my favorite blogs (in addition to a selection of #Mastodon and federated #Threads accounts). It’s SOOOO COOL…
Thank you #Fediverse and #ActivityPub for making this possible 🪄✨
Normalize this
@[email protected] · Reply to Mark Zuckerberg's post
If this sort of #Threads dreck is going to begin to appear organically in my Home feed on #Mastodon it's time to restore my Threads #DomainBlock
cc @pcottle
Ich habe übrigens auf Wunsch eine BlueSky-Bridge eingerichtet.
Meine Beiträge von Mastodon werden nach #BlueSky gespiegelt. Das wird hier vermutlich niemand benötigen, aber ich erwähne es mal.
Ich habe auch #Threads ausprobiert. Die Plattform finde ich Mumpitz und habe meinen Account wieder gelöscht.
Mein Spiegelaccount im blauen Himmel lautet:
@oekologisch-unterwegs.mastodon.online.ap.brid.gy
My chosen instance limits federation with threads.net (for well-documented and good reasons), so I can't directly follow accounts there.
However I still want to be able to follow specific accounts and refuse to make a Threads account. Is there a Threads equivalent to the bird.makeup Mastodon instance (which enables following Twitter accounts via ActivityPub)?
why should we federate with them when...
"extreme anti-trans hate content remains widespread across instagram, facebook, and threads. characterized by fear-mongering, lies, conspiracy theories, dehumanizing tropes, and violent rhetoric, these posts — many by high-follower accounts — aim to boost engagement, generate revenue, and seed hateful narratives about trans, nonbinary, and gender non-conforming people. these accounts profit from such hate, and so does meta and its shareholders"
Added a notification setup so I get alerted when someone I follow from bluesky/threads opts-in. I was too lazy to create another bot account so it just alerts me from the RSS bot
@[email protected] · Reply to George Conway's post
@gtconway3 Would appreciate it if you could spare some of your influence to encourage #Threads users like this to turn on federation.
@Sujiyan @DavidBHimself @syuilo As far as I can tell, all three of your instances are on the ban list by #Threads: https://www.threads.net/moderated_servers
👉🏾 Mastodon Cloud (https://mastodon.cloud)
👉🏾 Pawoo (https://pawoo.net)
👉🏾 MSTDN Japan (https://mstdn.jp)
Previously the flagship instances of #Misskey (https://misskey.io) & #Mastodon (https://mastodon.social) were banned, but after many of us brought it to #Meta’s attention they removed them from the list.
How to make your timeline Zuck less.
#Threads #OffWithTheirThreads
:HackerCat: cyberpunk.gay is now open for registrations!!! :HackerCat:
WHO ARE WE? we’re a scrappy little fresh-faced underdog instance of sharkey (a misskey fork). we have but one humbly stated mission: to put the PUNK back into cyberpunk on the fediverse
WHO AM I? i’m vanta. trans enby girl polyam lesbian gender terrorist, the fediverse’s favorite pirate radio DJ, DIY clothing auteur, and rogue wordsmith extraordinaire. i’ve been posting on fedi heavily since 2017
THREADS? not only is this instance a fedipact instance that has threads.net blocked, but… i’m the one who made the whole pact to begin with lmao
#cyberpunk #sharkey #fediverse #intro #introduction #introductions #FediPact #meta #threads
I think we should pick a #threads fediverse user at random who has like 3 followers and make one of their posts go extremely viral so they have to sit there confused about the thousands of anonymous 'fediverse users' liking and sharing their posts
are you an instance admin or mod on the fediverse?
do you hate meta, facebook, instagram, and threads?
wanna help keep them outta the fediverse and retain what makes this community so relatively safe and comfy?
send a clear signal that you're not fuckin around and just want them gone: sign the fedipact today!!! :FediPact:
The update for #Mastodon patching the bug in the preview is near, so it's time for a last look at #traffic sources for @heiseonline:
#Twitter keeps decreasing and is already overtaken by Mastodon (thx also to problems with our bot for #X, when it works, X brings more people).
#Flipboard and #Facebook are growing again, #Bluesky and #Threads are far behind. But Threads brings already more traffic than Bluesky, although we can't autopost (every link) there.
Kurz vor dem großen Update für #Mastodon, das die fehlerhafte Preview korrigieren sollte nochmal ein Blick auf Trafficquellen für @heiseonline: Demnach hat #Mastodon #Twitter überholt, auch ohne einen Teil des Traffics aus dem #Fediverse. Das liegt aber auch daran, dass das automatische Posten auf #X Probleme macht (wenn es geht, ist X vorne).
#Flipboard und #Facebook wachsen leicht. #Bluesky unten konstant hinter #Threads, obwohl dort alle und bei letzterem nur wenige Links geteilt werden.
"If you’re an activist, a journalist reporting on issues affecting LGBT people, or an LGBT content creator, Threads is now both silencing your voice and exposing you to death threats."
https://www.macstories.net/stories/lgbt-and-marginalized-voices-are-not-welcome-on-threads/
Announcing Free Fediverse, a website resource for all of us fighting to save our communities from absorption into surveillance capitalism!
There are lots of stories, thinkpieces, links and statements flying around and disappearing quickly, and it would be handy to have a place to store and reference them all. Free Fediverse is that place.
Free Fediverse is a wiki-based site linking to resources of the following categories:
- Links to and information on the FediPact
- Essays on the Meta threat to the Fediverse
- Articles on P92 in mainstream media outlets
- Announcements from instance admins on joining the pact
- Links and information for development projects beyond corporate enclosure
- Articles on Meta's many crimes against humanity
Free Fediverse will continue to be updated. Just hit me up to suggest a link for any category. More links to FediPact instance statements are very welcome!
The website has no ads, trackers or analytics. Ferdi the Free Fediverse Froggy sez "hop on over!"
#FreeFediverse #FediPact #FediblockMeta #DefederateMeta #Meta #P92 #Threads
There's truth in the Embrace, Enhance, Extinguish theory. But #Meta has its own strategy. It's called Copy, Acquire, K*ll.
I wrote about that strategy as it relates to #threads and #mastodon. I also have some insight for what Zuck might be up to. It's not what you think.
#PostsFromJason #FediSeriesFJ
The Medium is The Message is part one of a series (probably). In it, I argue that #Threads is not the assumed victory for the #fediverse it appears to be.
Longterm interpolation with Threads sends the wrong signal— not that Meta and Mastodon use #ActivityPub, a protocol the average user doesn’t understand, but that both share the same beliefs for the #openweb.
#PostsFromJason #FediSeriesFJ
https://fromjason.xyz/p/notebook/the-medium-is-the-message-threads-isn-t-a-win-for-the-fediverse/
Threaded Launches #Mastodon App, Which Mimics #Threads Layout 🔛 @[email protected] (Seize The Day) 📰 https://darnell.day/threaded-launches-mastodon-app-which-mimics-threads-layout?pk_campaign=rss-feed
Suosituimmat somepalvelut Suomessa 2024 – Threadsilla jo arviolta yli 900 000 käyttäjää
Threads is celebrating their one year anniversary with a cute little scratch off game. Every day, a new app icon becomes available that you can “scratch” to make visible.
Image has been marked as sensitive in case you want to keep the first 3 icons a surprise!
This is a smart move by @Mastodon. #Twitter / #X journalism is struggling, and #Threads doesn’t want journalism. Mastodon is leaning into it though, “To reinforce and encourage Mastodon as the go-to place for journalism, we’re launching a new feature today.” I think this is a lever for differentiation; making Mastodon more valuable to journalists and users.
https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon/112718231305707672
New: Last Week in #Fediverse - ep 75
This week's news:
- #Threads expands their fediverse connection
- Bandwagon is a new platform for musicians on the fediverse that has entered early testing
- @dot_social interviews Ghost's John O'Nolan
Read at: https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-75/
Latest #FOSSAcademic post: On Threads's Blocklist
https://fossacademic.tech/2024/06/28/ThreadsBlocking.html
In which I offer some quick analysis of #Meta #Threads new list of blocked servers.
There's so much more we can do to study what Threads is doing. Indeed, I will have a chapter on Threads in my book. But these are my initial thoughts a day into this event.
[Responses to this post will appear as comments on my blog, unless they are set to followers only or DM. CWs will work]
Imagine a stranger is spreading lies about you. They tell everyone that you're doing horrible stuff, the worst crimes imaginable. They're creating videos, articles, holding livestreams, all pushing the same lies designed to make everyone hate you and fear you.
Would you "just block them"?
What happens when other people don't block them? When other people believe them, follow them, share their lies?
What if this turns into real life abuse? If someone in the street attacks you?
That is what vulnerable minorities face because of badly-moderated social media:
Please defederate threads.net
how long until threads threatens to or actually does start blocking mastodon.social for allowing nudity?
would dot social bend the knee in that scenario and change their policy? probably
i think the most annoying thing about this whole discourse is that people refuse to judge threads by the standard of any other fedi instance
like if a mastodon instance got set up and federated right now and it allowed the shit threads allowed it'd be widely defederated IMMEDIATELY
there are accounts literally CALLING FOR THE DEATHS OF QUEER PEOPLE on there right fucking now
the only reason people are even willing to give them a chance is because it's a big corpo, but that should only be reason to give them less of one lmao. especially considering meta's history in particular
don't let them lower the bar for moderation standards here
hiiiiiiiiiiii welcome to the NEW official account for The Anti-Meta Fedi Pact at https://fedipact.online/
The Pact was started on june 17th, 2023 by @vantablack as a way to defend against meta's intended incursion into the fediverse
it's basically a (very pretty) list of instances who've signed it and agreed to block project92/barcelona/threads whenever it appears
to read about vanta's personal reasons for creating The Pact you can visit https://fedipact.online/why
this is the appropriate account to tag for Pact related discussions from now on, please do not bother me on my main about it lol
This is how we should advertise #Mastodon on other #SocialMedia
#Threads #Twitter #Instagram #Meta #Facebook #TownSquare
#Fediverse
Wait, Threads is now blocking mastodon.social?
https://www.threads.net/moderated_servers
EDIT: mastodon.social has been removed from the list after about 30 minutes. It will be interesting to hear what happened, and how this affected folks who follow each other.
The Fedi #Threads angst: The view from a Fedi-loving normie. 🧵
I’ve spent much of today pouring over various comments and discussion about the first toe dips of Threads and Meta into the Fediverse. The responses are kind of amazing. From excitement to revulsion, I get them all and I understand them. But the more I think about it, the more I think folks are creating a “why” that may not exist.
To start, I do follow people on Threads. Many of my Twitter follows have migrated off the Bad Place to Threads. Some have not. However, I anticipate as X becomes more people’s ex, Threads is where they will go.
I love the Fedi. I’ve worked hard to build my follows and find my peeps. But it takes work. For me, that work has borne fruit. It’s my place to connect and get my wonderfully chaotic feed.
A lot of folks chose the fedi because they felt and are excluded or targeted and it offers them a community that lets them protect themselves and instances that help protect them. I love that. 1/x
Threads implements #Misskey's `_misskey_quote` standard and gives them a shutout in the Facebook Engineering blog and then *blocks them* for "No publicly accessible feed" which is a completely baseless reason for blocking a server.
"We chose _misskey_quote because its naming makes it clear that it’s not an official ActivityPub method, and because we know that it’s supported by Misskey, Firefish, and potentially other servers that use quote posts." https://engineering.fb.com/2024/03/21/networking-traffic/threads-has-entered-the-fediverse #fediverse #threads
We had such an intense discussion about #FediBlock'ing #Threads and #FediPact... and in the end the problem just solved itself lol. We could've thunk that beforehand tbqh.
https://social.wake.st/@liaizon/112689839172827974
Threads released a public list of blocked instances:
👉🏾 https://www.threads.net/moderated_servers
Many #Mastodon & #Misskey instances are mistakenly blocked for not having a publicly accessible feed.
I wanted to appeal on their behalf, but #Threads requires admins to appeal.
👉🏾 https://help.instagram.com/contact/1574148669814359
List of notable blocked instances with admin:
👉🏾 https://Misskey.io | @syuilo
👉🏾 https://Mastodon.cloud & https://mstdn.jp | @Sujiyan
I am just letting the #Fediverse know!
I love how people were really concerned with the movement to block Threads as if ActivityPub needed some kind of legitimacy from Mark "Let's Destroy Democracy" Zuckerberg. Meanwhile Threads is blocking the entire Fediverse. :neofox_laugh_sweat:
#Decentralisation does NOT mean the whole #Fediverse should block #threads. Decentralisation means that every instance (and user) decides for themselves with whom to exchange communication. While this might look like chaos and a non-deterministic way of sharing information, it reflects the true nature of decentralisation. If you think it should be a binary decision of The Fediverse to not talk to Threads, you are still in the centralised mindset ...
Users on #threads can now see replies from #Mastodon users as of this week. There's still a lot of work to be done with #Fediverse but it's off to a great start. ( @threads )
Posts made with the Threads API don’t federate. I’m a little surprised by this. One of the replies is from a threads engineer so I assume it’s true.
It's kinda gross to see these corporate walled gardens intentionally misrepresent their Fedi integrations and just start using Fediverse in their PRs like their a genuine Fedi participant.
Looking at you, BlueSky and Threads. BlueSky lied about being decentralized and uses Brdigy Fed, a third party bridge to Fedi made by one man, to say they're decentralized. Threads keeps adding fake Fediverse interactions and promoting them as legit Fediverse interactions. They "added" replies from Fediverse without mentioning that they're private and can only mention 1 person or it won't be federated...🤦♂️
If you intentionally misrepresent your integrations for clout, you're doing nothing but harboring mistrust here on Fedi.
#Fediverse #Fedi #Bluesky #Threads #Meta #ActivityPub #Mastodon #SocialMedia
Yo @TechCrunch #BlueSky is not part (yet?) of the #fediverse and #Threads only for a very small part (yet). Don't publish nonsense.
Posts on #Threads don't seem to appear when following an account on the #Fediverse, even after enabling the feature in Threads. Is this working for anyone else?
Example: @nknewsorg remains empty even though there's new content on https://www.threads.net/@nknewsorg
@[email protected] · Reply to Mark Gardner's post
@[email protected] Confirmed that replies from #Fediverse to #Threads work.
Threads users can also like those replies and the replier will be notified.
Further, the Threads user can follow a link to the reply’s original server, as well as block the replier from further interaction or report their reply.
And....my hype for Threads replies has immediately been killed.
Replies are only shown to the OP. It's *something* but all this fake integration crap is starting to piss me off now...🤬
Edit: Confirmed. Replies are only shown to 1 person. You can't mention multiple Threads users and have them see it publicly. This is ridiculous at this point...🙄
As with most things, my opinion of Threads integration to the Fediverse is very nuanced.
On one hand, I enjoy the idea of being able to engage and interact with the wider social web. On the other hand, the sheer amount of Threads users makes me worry that Fediverse will soon be just like corporate social media sites.
I don't want to be lost in the mix of millions of posts, with hardly any engagement.
Also, Mastodon will be adding "limit replies" soon enough and that's bad for a number of reasons, the biggest being misinformation...😬
I am still VERY cautiously optimistic. However, if I start noticing my engagement fall off a cliff, I'll be immensely sad.😔
I know #threads is a polarizing subject here on Fedi but news is news…
Threads has enabled #Fediverse-bourne replies. i.e. you can now reply to federated Threads posts and those replies show up actually on Threads.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/25/24185226/meta-threads-fediverse-likes-replies
Kinda neat to see my Fedi profile show up natively on that platform. It even creates a clickable handle on the reply post that links to my Masto profile.
You can see my reply post (and the Threads-bourne post I replied to) here https://shellsharks.social/@shellsharks/112678293741616415
@[email protected] · Reply to BeAware :fediverse:'s post
#Threads Ignores #EuropeanUnion 🇪🇺, Allows Everyone Else To Embrace #Fediverse 🔛 @[email protected] (Seize The Day) 📰 https://darnell.day/threads-ignores-european-union-allows-everyone-else-to-embrace-fediverse?pk_campaign=rss-feed
Threads inches forward with like and reply visibility from the fediverse, but only direct replies to the original post.
And takes a big leap by giving over 100 countries the option to turn on fediverse sharing (this is the big news imo)
https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/25/24185226/meta-threads-fediverse-likes-replies
Threads is moving slowly but at least they're moving
The great #MastodonMigration after the #TwitterTakeover was accompanied by many helpful tools to find followers worth following.
With #Threads federating (partially) and #Bluesky bridged, I think we need new ones now. Are there any?
@[email protected] · Reply to Twitter_expat ✅(Fedi Resident)'s post
@anneapplebaum
When I joined the #fediverse I followed this user. It turns out to be a huge online abuse promoter. The classical example of a user crying for protection and saying he is defending "vulnerables". But he has no qualms to promote abuse soon as he can.
#Threads #Defederation #OnlineAbuse #AralBalkan #Cyberbulling #Fediverse
@[email protected] · Reply to Twitter_expat ✅(Fedi Resident)'s post
@anneapplebaum
The examples keep coming in... I mean these people are something else. They claim to be abhor by bulling behaviour unless is they who do it...
#Threads #defederation #Fediverse
@[email protected] · Reply to Anne Applebaum's post
@anneapplebaum
Absolutely true. Funny we are talking about this. Giving the federation of @potus account I found something outstanding. Those "activist" who "abhor Nazis and Transphobes" are the same one who will incur in the same behaviour soon as the find an opportunity. Example 1A (See image). @Gargron is probably the most cyberbullies user in the #fediverse . And he is getting cyberbullies by those who claim the are here seeking "protection". We humans are extremely flawed. #Threads
@[email protected] · Reply to Twitter_expat ✅(Fedi Resident)'s post
If you are one of those who think you are an “activist protecting people against Nazis and Transphobes” and when contradicted behaves the same or worse than Nazis and Transphobes you are the biggest asshole out there. You are a blind huge asshole.
So take a minute to see the stupidity that you are doing and reflect on that.
#fediverse #defederate #threads
@[email protected] · Reply to Twitter_expat ✅(Fedi Resident)'s post
If you are one of those people thinking that you are an “activist” and “protecting against transphobes” and behaves way worse than the transphobes themselves you are bigger assholes #threads #defederate #fediverse
If you are one of those going around telling people what they can see or can’t see you are not an “activist” you are an asshole #threads #defederation
Some official accounts from news media have become available through #ThreadsNet. I find:
* @[email protected] (but prefer @[email protected] )
* @motherjonesmag
* @washingtoncitypaper
* @postopinions
* @[email protected] (also @[email protected] )
* @theagendatvo
* @newrepublic
* @slate
* @cnet
* @nymag
* @cultmtl
* @dailymail
* @axios
* @wgnnews
Please reply if you find something similar, and I'll update my list.
(Boosts welcome)
2024-09-16: Edited to split off government accounts.
Time to repeat the public request that mas.to would lift the defederation block on threads.net. Leave it silenced, sure, but let people opt-in to follow profiles of their choice. @trumpet
#threads #federation
My experience so far with microblogging services:
Threads: I'm in a wrong party and don't know what to say. I feel awkward, everyone is so happy with their gym selfies. Everyone asking endless questions and asking things from the algorithm. Lots of people use it like Instagram, every post is a selfie with a meaningless caption. Some are copy-pasting the same sentence over and over again for each line. Endless quote-post memes... What the fuck is this shit I don't even...
Bluesky: A Twitter clone, but still very barebones. Notifications are still not working, there are no hashtags and I don't find any relevant content to me in any of the feeds. It's mostly Facebook-like what's up in life, furry scene and AI photos. No news, no tech/web scene, no nothing. Not to mention it's still invite-only and won't support ActivityPub (yeah I know the reasoning behind that but for me it's mostly bullshit, I look forward to trying bridgy fed).
Mastodon and the Fediverse: Here I'm at home on my own server. Most content, most features. A community is friendly but has also lots of nitpicking, some angry dudes. Still the most safest, most healthy and most customized, but somehow the most hated network elsewhere. "Too techie", they say. "Too difficult", they say. "No algorithm", they say.
Nostr: Kinda promising, but way too obscure, strange and even techier than Mastodon. Too much crypto shit.
Well, that's that. Sometimes I feel like Internet is ruined. But I believe in the open social web movement and I want to see this grow.
In no other place I can write a status update as freely as this, as long as this or with a low bar as this. I LIKE this 100%. The same can't be said in those other places I'm experimenting with out of curiosity. There I'm the weird kid. Here I feel like myself.
#Fediverse #SocialWeb #SocialMedia #Bluesky #Threads #Some #Mastodon
To keep my timelines tidy, I block relentlessly.
* My #firewall to the #metaverse is up, I blocked #threads
* I block any war propaganda no matter which side it takes
* I block anything repetitive I am not interested in (this includes bots telling me the time of the day by "dong dong dong" or posting the same cartoon every Wednesday)
* I block accounts posting in foreign languages I don't understand
* Anything else that just distracts me. Don't feel offended by this, it is nothing personal
Tutorial rápido para bloquear #threads y todas las instancias que han estado usando como prueba (de momento)
(En modo navegador de pc)
vas a https://codeberg.org//alexis/block-meta-from-fedi/src/branch/main/.data/domains.txt le das a descargar, renombras el .txt como csv vas a preferencias > importar y exportar > importar > Pinchas en lista de seguidos y selecciona Lista de dominios bloqueados, carga el csv y listo!
As the #Mastoadmin of the #metalverse I have made the decision to defederate #threads completely.
I personally have banned everything #meta from my life and I would very much keep them out of the fediverse completely, because nothing good has ever come from that company. Their goal is to maximize their Ad revenue, which is contrary to the basic belief of the fediverse.
If you, as a user, think otherwise, feel free to migrate to a different instance that does in fact federate with Threads.
Nie zobaczysz na Mastodon.com.pl wpisów z #Threads. Zawarliśmy (wspólnie z Pixelfedem, Lemmym i setkami serwerów Mastodona na całym świecie) pakt przeciwko Mecie https://fedipact.online i nie będziemy federować z nową aplikacją, powiązaną z Instagramem.
Polecamy się wszystkim tym, którzy chcą się od firmy Facebook trzymać z daleka.