洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary:'s avatar
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@hongminhee@hollo.social

Fascinating paper: Your Morals Depend on Language (Costa et al., 2014). People make significantly more utilitarian choices in moral dilemmas when the dilemma is presented in a foreign language, apparently because a foreign language dulls emotional responses and shifts the balance toward deliberative thinking.

It matches my own experience. Thinking in a foreign language feels like rendering graphics without GPU acceleration: everything runs on raw CPU, slower and more laborious. After a full day of conversations in English or Japanese, I'm physically exhausted in a way that Korean never does to me. What I didn't quite register until reading this paper is that the “GPU” doing all that fast, effortless processing is largely the emotional system. When it steps back, you end up doing more of the reasoning yourself. Whether that's a feature or a bug probably depends on what you're deciding.

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@todayilearned@noc.social

TIL bilinguals given the trolley problem in their native language chose to sacrifice one to save five less than 20% of the time. In their second language, about 50% chose to, because a foreign language lowers emotional resonance and triggers more utilitarian reasoning.

journals.plos.org/plosone/arti

reddit.com/r/todayilearned/com

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@MonkeyPanic@nerdculture.de · Reply to 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary:'s post

@hongminhee I would disagree with the conclusion. My experience is different. I was perfectly bilingual as a kid. Korean was, in a sense, my first language together with German. But my Korean is not that good today. Now I am a language learner, mainly BC my vocabulary is too small.
Now to my point -> Though I experience that same exhaustion and slowness of thought, Korean triggers a lot of emotions. On the other hand I can talk English all day but I think I feel its 'utilitarian' character as a second language.

I think it depends on how much you can connect culture and memories, and also if you grasp all the concepts a word can carry, not just the literal translation.

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@julian@fietkau.social · Reply to 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary:'s post

@hongminhee I have often noticed that it's a lot easier to swear in a second language, because the emotional hurdle is lower. I've always considered that it could be because I wasn't raised in it. Maybe it's a related mechanism.

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@some@hachyderm.io · Reply to 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary:'s post

@hongminhee "Thinking in a foreign language feels like rendering graphics without GPU acceleration" is such a good way to put it!

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@mariusor@metalhead.club · Reply to 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary:'s post

> that the “GPU” doing all that fast, effortless processing is largely the emotional system

@hongminhee I don't think so... to me it sounds more plausible that the neural pathways that are used for native language are a lot more used than the ones for foreign languages so they trigger with less energy expenditure.

Speaking your native language is basically "muscle memory", speaking in a different language is like navigating a maze: you have to plan your route, change direction often, sometimes backtrack all together, and as such is requiring a lot more brain power.

Caveat emptor: these are non scientific musings, I have no citation for anything. :D

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@locha@fediscience.org · Reply to 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary:'s post

@hongminhee Looks like a strong effect, too, and on large, diverse samples. I didn’t expect it to be so strong.

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@twilliability@genart.social · Reply to 洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary:'s post

@hongminhee This paper looks great, thank you for sharing it! There is a lot of false and debunked science circulating about language and cognition. (Eg the alleged statistical correlation between "how much money people save" and "does their language have future tense".)

This paper is among the rarer ones that really make sense.